R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-22-2012, 10:59 PM   #46
Tech Elite
 
Odin544's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Kennewick, Washington
Posts: 3,166
Trader Rating: 93 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Lotus View Post
I know that some are going to "flame me" for this; but I don't like this body at all!! Follow me on this: Back in the 90's when 4wd touring cars first became a huge hit with on-road racers everywhere, the biggest draw was not only their ability to run and handle great on asphalt and carpet, but at the time they came with beautiful "scale" bodies from the likes of Tamiya and HPI. Also, the wheels were scale looking as well, no ugly solid dish wheels in neon colors, etc. Same with the bodies; they were painted and decaled like real cars; no ugly weird neon and flames paint schemes! Then companies like Protoform and others introduced the ultra-aerodynamic "blob" bodies that weren't a copy of any real car. The wheel and tire manufacturers responded with the ugly dish wheels that didn't look like any real wheels. Scale realisim and the original charm of touring car racing was sacrificed at the altar of all-out performance and speed!!

I see this move by 3 racing as the beginning of the same end result for F1 rc racing, because the "performance addicts" who have to be fastest and win at all costs will buy these bodies and toss out their beautiful scale Tamiya F1 bodies. Then they will all dump the rubber tires and some manufacturer will start selling white or neon green dish wheels with foams to give the ultimate performance!! The result will be that mainstream F1 rc racing will go the route of touring cars and lose it's soul, it's identity, and the charm that drew us to F1 racing in the first place!
I agree. The body is hideous.
__________________
Xray - ORCA - Avid RC - MaxFX Paint
TriCitiesRC.com
Odin544 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 11:26 PM   #47
Tech Champion
 
RedBullFiXX's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Intergalactic Planetary
Posts: 6,540
Trader Rating: 34 (100%+)
Default

If it did actually look like that Leyton House, all we would hear is how awesome it looks

But it doesn't




Obviously a nice F1 paint job wouldn't hurt though

I see a lot of racers that don't care about looks so, I guess this body will sell well as it is light weight
__________________
--> 12th scale Information Source <--

"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they quit playing."
― Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.
RedBullFiXX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2012, 11:33 PM   #48
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 534
Default

I would say with the correct front wing for the era and mounted on a 200mm wide chassis, it would look acceptable. Its all in how they have presented it, which makes it look so wrong and out of place...
ixlr8nz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2012, 12:47 AM   #49
Tech Elite
 
spring71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chino, CA
Posts: 3,721
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Wow...., I just wanted to share how it's mounted on actual chassis, because I couldn't find any images since it came out

Forgive my lazy paint job... It could be looked better if it's painted right with F1 decals.... my bad....
__________________
TQ RC RACING
Indoor RC Race Track & Hobby Shop in Chino, CA
Online Shop
http://www.tqrcracing.com
tq@tqrcracing.com
spring71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2012, 11:05 AM   #50
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Kaohsiung City, Taiwan
Posts: 1,571
Send a message via ICQ to JiuHaWong
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spring71 View Post
Wow...., I just wanted to share how it's mounted on actual chassis, because I couldn't find any images since it came out

Forgive my lazy paint job... It could be looked better if it's painted right with F1 decals.... my bad....
I appreciate you taking the time to paint and mount up a body. Irregardless of whether it looks real or not.

Anyone know when the chassis will finally come out?
JiuHaWong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2012, 11:51 AM   #51
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 325
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

I have mounted the body on my f1 ultra. It's really not that bad looking besides the.funky nose. Nice thing about it is how much room it has for pod movement and motor wires. Plus its cheap and available!

Having difficulties uploading the picture from my phone.

Paging Texas tc!
racer robert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2012, 01:51 PM   #52
Tech Master
 
texastc's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Forney Texas
Posts: 1,360
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

I'm on it
Attached Thumbnails
3 Racing new f1 F113-robertsf113body.jpg  
__________________
Exotek F1 Ultra
Exotek F1R
CRC Gen-X 10 LE
Kyosho Plazma F1
TC does RC
texastc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2012, 03:32 PM   #53
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hudson Falls, NY
Posts: 872
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMODVETTE View Post
Clicking the link shows this photo. Real car next to the F113 body shows this body is scale.




But how scale are you looking for? Real F1 has IRS. How many Tamiya chassis come with IRS? How many Tamiya bodies are up to date with F1? Is your only "scale" issue dish wheels?
I do wish that all F1 rc cars had IRS, but that is not the case, so, I do prefer that the bodies, wings, and wheels/tires all be as scale as possible, whether the intent is to re-create a "vintage" F1 car like the McLarens or Ferraris or Lotus, etc of the 80s, etc, etc. or the intent is to emulate the current 2012 era F1 cars.
I am very against such cars as the current Corally F1 car which is nowhere near scale in chassis dimensions or wheels and tires. F1 chassis, whether solid rear axle such as Tamiya, or IRS such as the FGX should be to scale dimensions as much as possible. Tamiya currently uses one chassis type to replicate current F1 cars and vintage F1 from the 70s and 80s. They just supply different wheels/tires and front suspension and the appropriate body to go from a 2012 car to a 1980s car, and still look very scale! I hope I'm expaining this properly.

So my issue is much more than "dish wheels", it is the whole package, and I don't want to see F1 "hi-jacked" by the "performance addicts" and ruin it the way they did touring car. To further make my point, the only current "touring car" chassis class that I like is Vintage Trans Am, which puts affordability and scale looks ahead of all-out performance! The bodies must be scale and the wheels and tires as well in that class! They even require a driver figure in the car!! Now, THAT'S what I'm talking about!!

Before any of you dismiss what I'm saying; be honest with yourselves and think back to what drew you to F1 racing in the first place! Wasn't the first thing that got your attention the awesome scale looks of the cars, especially the better presented ones that looked like a real team car!! If you're honest, you know it was!! Do you really want to risk that being ruined?

Last edited by Team Lotus; 09-24-2012 at 08:40 PM.
Team Lotus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 07:21 PM   #54
Tech Master
 
texastc's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Forney Texas
Posts: 1,360
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Everybody take a deep breath. Track report from Racer Robert and his F113 body tells us that there was NO improvement in lap times. Do not sell your F1 cars, Do not shut down the UF1. I repeat, NO improvement in lap times. Do not sell your F1 cars, Do not shut down the UF1. That is all.
__________________
Exotek F1 Ultra
Exotek F1R
CRC Gen-X 10 LE
Kyosho Plazma F1
TC does RC
texastc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 09:42 PM   #55
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Marietta, Ga
Posts: 2,087
Trader Rating: 57 (100%+)
Default

PROMODVETTE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2012, 12:22 AM   #56
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 111
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Lotus View Post
I am very against such cars as the current Corally F1 car which is nowhere near scale in chassis dimensions or wheels and tires. F1 chassis, whether solid rear axle such as Tamiya, or IRS such as the FGX should be to scale dimensions as much as possible. Tamiya currently uses one chassis type to replicate current F1 cars and vintage F1 from the 70s and 80s. They just supply different wheels/tires and front suspension and the appropriate body to go from a 2012 car to a 1980s car, and still look very scale! I hope I'm expaining this properly.
Yes, you do keep going on and on about it. I can even see your point with the Corally car. That said, and this is something I've seen you ignore numerous times: the 'very scale' Tamiya F1 cars aren't. The wheelbase is off substantially. With your whole scale argument that becomes very thin ice indeed.

Quote:
Before any of you dismiss what I'm saying; be honest with yourselves and think back to what drew you to F1 racing in the first place!
Open wheeled racing.
__________________
Tamiya TRF101, Corally F1 SL, 3Racing F1-09, Kyosho Mini-Z MR03, Corally SP12M, Tamiya SuperShot, Kyosho Optima Pro, Duratrax Vendetta.
Home track: http://www.amcaracing.nl
ijdod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2012, 04:49 AM   #57
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 70
Default

Well people who watch F1 cars race at our track recognize alle chassis as "model RC F1 cars" People don't even see the front suspension of the Corally, Tamiya or 3Racing cars. Nor do they comment on the scale aspect... So honoustly I don't understand the fuss against Corally cars. Well no need to. At our club we race all kinds of F1 chassis and we ALL have BIG FUN doing so We just like open wheeled racing....
Johnson40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2012, 09:21 AM   #58
Tech Master
 
texastc's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Forney Texas
Posts: 1,360
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default




__________________
Exotek F1 Ultra
Exotek F1R
CRC Gen-X 10 LE
Kyosho Plazma F1
TC does RC
texastc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2012, 11:27 AM   #59
Tech Champion
 
robk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Macho Business Donkey Wrestler
Posts: 7,435
Trader Rating: 22 (100%+)
Default

Wow
__________________
A mutually re-enforcing cascade of failure

"Failior [sic] crowns enterprise." Robert Goddard

I-Lap Scoring Systems http://www.rclapcounter.com/
robk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2012, 11:32 AM   #60
Tech Master
 
RCBuddha's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,840
Trader Rating: 33 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by texastc View Post



Quote:
Originally Posted by robk View Post
Wow
+1

I like it, just waiting on the price...
RCBuddha is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 12:53 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net

SEO by vBSEO 3.5.0