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Old 03-07-2013, 03:15 AM   #361
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My setup from the event, not the fastest car, but extremely easy to drive and consistent.

Sorry guys, need to make the file size smaller
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Bradd,

Thanks for the information about the race and car, its great to see that everyone worked well together at a big international event like that. Really shows that there is something behind the effort.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:37 PM   #363
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A bit of a story from my time at TITC with the little ARC fella


TITC 2013
Boosted 13.5t class
Bradd Vercoe
Titan ARC R10


Once again we make the trek back to RCAddict for this years TITC, Having made the trip from Australia with a big group of friends, we were once again presented with a beautifully manicured race circuit, this year sported a new layout, with patches in some spots I was worried the track would be hard to come to grips with.
This year I am driving the new Titan ARC R10, it has only been on the market for a few months, but using it around my home tracks I was confident I would have a strong reliable car, and was looking forward to meeting the owner Jones Chu and the rest of the ARC team. Josh Cyrul was scheduled to race and I was really looking forward to utilizing his immense experience but unfortunately family commitments didn’t allow this to happen.
My first prac day was Saturday the week before the event, before the rest of the team arrived. I started with a suggested setup from the teams experience at the Ride cup a few months earlier. For my driving preference I found the car to be undergripped, and just not balanced to drive. Every change I made took me closer to my home setup, Once I had it on completely I had a very easy car to drive, but I just could not get the lap times others were quoting, and as the grip came up the car became sensitive to traction roll in a couple of corners. The couple of R10 drivers who were there were very helpful with bouncing ideas off, namely Leonard Kee and Leonard Sim, both using differing setups, but was good to bounce ideas off. On Sunday when I was able to meet Jones and the Team he provided me with a different 2.5mm chassis, this was immediately a benefit giving the car the same steering, but with more confidence in the rear end of the car.
After chatting with a few people (namely fellow countryman, Ryan Maker) and checking out some other cars, we took a new direction in setup, once again the R10 performed flawlessly with zero car failures, yielded a car that was still immensely easy to drive, but had more corner speed, and started to yield the lap times I was hoping for. This involved generally making the car softer. Setup changes in these high traction conditions are quite difficult as we are used to racing on much lower traction tracks, and tend to find that the adjustments generally have the opposite effect here as opposed to home, so I took the safe route and stayed with a consistent, easy to drive setup as opposed to chasing for the ultimate in lap times, everything was going well and I was hoping for some good results this year. Off Track things went very wrong, walking back to my pit shed my foot broke though the decking, and I fell down and severely damaged my thigh, with very heavy bruising, but I was very lucky to not hurt myself more as I could have fallen further down the stairs, so I was pretty tender for the rest of the week (Marc Reinhard later also broke a decking board, but he was running and was lucky not to fall in)
Unfortunately things started to go pear shaped in the prequal races, First run was relatively solid, but 2nd run a slight tweak in the software settings bought an early end to the run with the ESC hitting an incorrectly set low voltage cutoff, ending my race early. This put me way back in the pack for the first rounds of qual. Come Friday morning car all prepped, looking forward to a good run on relatively new tires given my short run in pre qual, the first lap the car did half a spin through the fast chicane, half a lap later the car went straight and wouldn’t turn into the sweeper, somehow the centre of the tire had broken out, without even hitting anything. Second run on Friday I was told by the Hobbywing crew to update my software to the latest version, running the same settings as previously my motor cooked towards the end of the run. So 2 DNF, with 3 out of 5 rounds to count I was really feeling down, having a beautiful car to drive with small issues preventing me from showing its full potential.
With a fresh start on Saturday, feeling extremely nervous knowing I had to rely on all 3 of my remaining heats for a decent qual, starting in 89th, I knew it would be tough as the traction would only increase for the later heats. First run I was very happy with the car, but I made a small driving mistake touching a curb and landing on my roof, luckily I was able to recover fairly quick losing 3 seconds, I could hardly believe it when at the end of the round I had put in a 16th position in round. Race 2 I made a small change to the rear link, as the first round the car was a little tail happy, unfortunately the track changed and the car was understeering, although again extremely easy to drive, and I had a clean run to win my race (It was actually a blessing in disguise being in a low heat, as the race director called me through the traffic each race), once again I was happy with the car but not the race time, but was stunned to see again a good result being 18th in the round. The final qual, I was even more nervous, knowing I had a great consistent car and 2 very good finishes under my belt, again I was very lucky with traffic, and had a clean run, although again I wasn’t overly happy with the race time, but when the round had finished I was shocked to see another 16th in round. My imagination was going wild hoping for a top 20 final qualifying position, unfortunately it was not to be with the numbers revealing I had qualified 22nd, quite bittersweet as this is by far my best qualifying position at any TITC I have attended but so close to having made the B final, especially considering the event organizers had changed the rules immediately before the event, allowing factory drivers and previous A final contestants to enter the Boosted 13.5t class.
First final the car felt superb once again, having used my last set of new tires, I was able to pressure the TQ car into a mistake, and once past was able to pull out a large lead to take the win, with the final finishing position to be determined by the fastest race time, I was feeling confident that I could potentially take the C final win. Race 2 once again car felt good to drive but I was slowly losing ground on first place, and he had a clean run, with a number of seconds to 3rd place, I started to over think things too much and made a silly mistake which caused me to need marshalling, which put me down to 3rd place. Unfortunately the second final was a few seconds faster, later finding out that first place was on new tires, overall I finished 3rd in the C final. Again my best placing by far at any TITC I have attended.
After having a debrief with Jones, the majority of the other R10 drivers had changed to a 2.25mm version of the new chassis plate, which gave their cars a little more traction, wether this would have yielded better lap times or not is unknown, but I was very happy with the R10 for the entire event, with nothing breaking or wearing out during the entire event, the only issue I faced was in prac where a competitior decided it was a good idea to drive backwards along the track which damaged my upper and lower top deck, Jones came to the rescue with replacement parts to keep the car in top condition.
It was great to have the support of Jones and the ARC team, it is often difficult being a privateer at these big events with the top teams going fro the win it is difficult to get honest open communication, this is something I truly cherished with ARC this year. As the car has only been out for a very short period of time, I am confident that the future of Titan ARC is very bright, to come up with a car of this quality and calibre, at such a competitive price at its first attempt is truly an amazing effort. With some fine tuning and some clearer base setups for varying conditions things can only become more promising.


Video of the 2 C finals.
I am the flouro orange car starting in 2nd place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1rrcpLiVQE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=q9Sb3B_5NWY
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:59 PM   #364
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I got a bit of a Surprise, thanks to Arno from Petit RC.

http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/arc/...ict2013022324/

My setup has been posted.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:27 PM   #365
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Bradd,

The set up was also posted on the Team ARC USA Facebook page!!! Thx again!!
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:06 PM   #366
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Guys

Just heard of this car this weekend for the first time. I saw one in action and was impressed by the quality of the kit. However I was a little concerned by the setup of the car. It seemed to lack some corner speed but the driver from out of town and probably didn't have a great setup yet. However it has me wondering if it was the car or just setup.

I am currently running a RSD6.1 and have been very happy with the car. I just recently found a great setup and it has been running great for me as a mediocre driver. I have spent tons of money on the car in the last couple of years and would like a new platform to try stuff with . Our winter series is also winding down here and I am not sure if there will be any outdoor action. However I would really like to try this car but am afraid I may be a bit early...... seems like a new chassis is in the works or changes are being made currently. Can someone please advise me?
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Just heard of this car this weekend for the first time. I saw one in action and was impressed by the quality of the kit. However I was a little concerned by the setup of the car. It seemed to lack some corner speed but the driver from out of town and probably didn't have a great setup yet. However it has me wondering if it was the car or just setup.

I am currently running a RSD6.1 and have been very happy with the car. I just recently found a great setup and it has been running great for me as a mediocre driver. I have spent tons of money on the car in the last couple of years and would like a new platform to try stuff with . Our winter series is also winding down here and I am not sure if there will be any outdoor action. However I would really like to try this car but am afraid I may be a bit early...... seems like a new chassis is in the works or changes are being made currently. Can someone please advise me?
Hi BJ

It is quite a new car, and the instruction kit setup is quite stiff, more suited to mid to high traction big outdoor tracks (High RC Mounts, hard oil/pistion combo, vertical shicks etc) So depending on the surface the kit setup could lack some overall grip.

There has been some development of individual parts, like the new thinner chassis, but you can adjust the car out of the box for low traction tracks.
And any changes will be straight bolt on to the existing kit, i cant see dramatic changes coming for another year or more.

The quality and strength of the kit is far superior to the AE stuff you have been used to.
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Old 03-13-2013, 03:57 PM   #368
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Been running the car for 6 months now.

Pros...

- Super quality, way ahead of the current Associated parts.
- Super strong, I haven't broken or worn a single thing.
- Good value
- All the options you could want are available without needing to bodge from other brands.
- ARC are doing a lot of development and a lot of updated parts are coming out. The time from concept to availability is pretty short.

Cons

- ARC are doing a lot of development and a lot of updated parts are coming out. My car is already a couple of iterations of chassis out of date.
- The car is a bit heavy as standard, I would be at 1420-1450gm depending on tyres using a 320gm Lipo, average electronics and standard weight body. For this reason I actually run a shorty for 17.5 Blinky. Others running lightweight parts are getting the car down to 1380 or less.
- The XRAY-style shock caps & bladders are a pain. I'm on Tamiya shocks now and I'm not alone.

In terms of setup, the kit as a whole is a bit on the stiff side so you will probably want to have another chassis available to test. I've run the car with the standard chassis quite a lot and although I don't think the flex chassis are any faster they do have a bit more "flow" to the handling. The out of the box geometry is pretty good, after trying a few things I'm basically back to kit settings with the exception of less rear toe and a slightly lower roll centre all round.
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Thanks for the input..... I have decided to give one a go. It seems well thought out and I would rather durability over lightweight any day. I currently run a spec class with a 1450 weight minimum so I will be fine. I am sure the near future will bring a 2.25mm chassis that will help the weight some. I will be careful on my build and see where I end up.....
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The ARC is actually solid straight out of the box. Most of the optional parts are for fine tuning but under any condition the car will perform. Its great to see this car spreading in the US. Just California alone i have seen more people driving this car straight out of the box and the cars look dialed. I have been playing with a lot of option parts as well but i can easily get the same lap time with a stock car if it is setup right.

The car is little on the heavy side but it still makes weight for U.S specs
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Have one on back order, if Besercoe likes it, it must be good...
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Have one on back order, if Besercoe likes it, it must be good...
On backorder? ouch. I know a shipment was scheduled to leave ARC HQ on friday, so wont be long.


Good to hear Jim, let me know if i can help. My setup posted on ARC Driver in facebook a few months ago was very good at castle hill.
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Cyrul looks fast at the roar nats
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Maybe Josh will make up for his bad luck at the Birds..... looking forward to more info from PA.
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On backorder? ouch. I know a shipment was scheduled to leave ARC HQ on friday, so wont be long.


Good to hear Jim, let me know if i can help. My setup posted on ARC Driver in facebook a few months ago was very good at castle hill.
Thanks Bradd, I'll take you up on that

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