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Old 06-10-2014, 01:40 PM   #7531
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I will be sticking with what I have. I've had great luck with my Novak motor and ESC and won't replace until something gives up the ghost.
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sticking with what I have (justock), or maybe going back to the GTB2 - depends on which feels better now that I have the justock all sorted out, settings wise (weak brakes)
For me I found I have to boost the "reverse" settings, even though reverse isn't actually used. Mopar- Greg got mine working pretty well.. strong brakes after that was sorted.
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I found the same thing on my HW. Turn reverse to 100% even when not used. I also found that I turned reverse off even in practice due to a delay in the throttle if you double tapped the reverse trigger.
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I found the same thing on my HW. Turn reverse to 100% even when not used. I also found that I turned reverse off even in practice due to a delay in the throttle if you double tapped the reverse trigger.
That's basically it, you don't use reverse (turned off using the program card) but you still turn the setting for it up. Then life is good with HW.

Might try the Spec Tekin... kind of interested in the whole data-logging thing. Was looking at the explanation on their website and it was pretty cool how you could find out exactly where and if the motor was reaching max revs, ect. Looks like it could be very useful in getting ones gearing exactly where it should be, something I've never been an expert at.
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If using ceramic bearings make you a dork, then what does using a data logger make you? lol
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If using ceramic bearings make you a dork, then what does using a data logger make you? lol
It made me nervous at first, when I saw your name in the vta forum.Just remember your a tc guy just playing in vta.
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If using ceramic bearings make you a dork, then what does using a data logger make you? lol
Dork? Man we all play with toy cars.... it's kind of inescapable for all of us now isn't it
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I think you opened up a can of worms if its not broken don't fix it my 2 cents worth.
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I use the data logging feature in my Tekin and it was VERY helpful. I didnt use so much for gearing, although watching real time temps throughout a run helped with other things. One big thing I noticed was my battery voltage. Althiugh the charger said 8.4v when charge was over, I observed that I was only getting 8.15 at the stsrt of a race and dropping dramatically after that. I also noticed motor temps were only at 110-115. (I also run a Tekin 25.5, I dont know if it will pick up a Novak motors temps).

After purchasing new batts and finding same results, it lead me to getting a new charger that I could adjust the peak voltage. Now when I plug my battery into the car I get right at 8.4 volts. I also removd the fan, geared up a couple teeth, and played with the timing. This brought speeds up and improved battery punch even more, but I was able to keep motor temps under 160. As the summer slammed in, temps went up and I added the fan back. Performance change was unoticable, but temps were brought back down to under 160.

I love the Tekin for this factor alone and am glad that if/when I get to attend the Southern Nats that my ESC will now be legal. (I know my motor isnt, I keep a Ballistic in the box just incase). I also like the fact that I can adjust my ESC from my phone. I download the data when I get home. One less thing to take to the track.
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For me I found I have to boost the "reverse" settings, even though reverse isn't actually used. Mopar- Greg got mine working pretty well.. strong brakes after that was sorted.
yeah, I heard that. I made the change but haven't had it on the track to give it a shot. also, think I had the wrong firmware, had the one the the capital NO, instead of the No version - which I have now
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yeah, I heard that. I made the change but haven't had it on the track to give it a shot. also, think I had the wrong firmware, had the one the the capital NO, instead of the No version - which I have now
I never tried it until Greg threw his digi program box on it and we went through it all. Once reverse strength was notched up (again reverse itself disabled) it was a whole new deal in terms of brake strength. When I throw the binders on hard it stops, and the motor makes that "I don't like this" sound But yeah it's the way to go. I think I'm going to pull the fan off mine, the motor may need it in the summer but the esc isn't taking much of a hammering with a 25.5 strapped to it.
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Any chance of updating the official USVTA website rules page with a link to the ROAR rules on speed controllers?
Rob is working on getting it updated I would think it would be done soon.
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No the real rule change is going to be involving the ESC rules. ROAR spec speed control rules and their list will now beeric followed. I put a lot of thought into this and talked with guys like Kevin K and Eric among others. While the esc list has been successful in my opinion and is ideal, the number of speed controls to fit the bill seems to be shrinking. I would much rather stick with non updateable controllers but it's becoming a hassle. On the upside of this is that Howard Cano who posts on this thread does the ESC test for ROAR and his system is thorough and exhaustive, using proper lab instruments. I know this is not as simple as before, but I hope it also does not take away confidence in a fair shot for everyone racing. If tracks want to stick with the escs currently listed on the USVTA site, the list will remain there as is for your reference. That will be a decision for you.

Other than that there are no other plans for major rules changes.
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:12 PM   #7545
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I use the data logging feature in my Tekin and it was VERY helpful. I didnt use so much for gearing, although watching real time temps throughout a run helped with other things. One big thing I noticed was my battery voltage. Althiugh the charger said 8.4v when charge was over, I observed that I was only getting 8.15 at the stsrt of a race and dropping dramatically after that. I also noticed motor temps were only at 110-115. (I also run a Tekin 25.5, I dont know if it will pick up a Novak motors temps).

After purchasing new batts and finding same results, it lead me to getting a new charger that I could adjust the peak voltage. Now when I plug my battery into the car I get right at 8.4 volts. I also removd the fan, geared up a couple teeth, and played with the timing. This brought speeds up and improved battery punch even more, but I was able to keep motor temps under 160. As the summer slammed in, temps went up and I added the fan back. Performance change was unoticable, but temps were brought back down to under 160.

I love the Tekin for this factor alone and am glad that if/when I get to attend the Southern Nats that my ESC will now be legal. (I know my motor isnt, I keep a Ballistic in the box just incase). I also like the fact that I can adjust my ESC from my phone. I download the data when I get home. One less thing to take to the track.
It's all pretty cool stuff. I remember when I put a dyno jet power commander on a bike for the first time.. being able to try different maps and see what the differences where, and seeing visually what was going on. Not a direct comparison per se to the tekin esc but the point is you get to enjoy a bit of technology and hopefully get things set to your liking.

So when you wired the Novak motor to the Tekin, did both parts look at you like "no way man ?!?!?" Kind of like asking Ford and Chevy to get along. I won't lie, the first time I switched to Tekin bitd I was happy to do so But I also think the Ballistic 25.5, when you find a good one, is pretty stout.
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