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Old 08-27-2013, 06:11 PM   #5071
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Definitely setup and more importantly, driver. I have a "good" setup on my car. A more consistent driver that hits there mark every lap is still faster than I am with my own car. All About consistency.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:36 PM   #5072
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Definitely setup and more importantly, driver. I have a "good" setup on my car. A more consistent driver that hits there mark every lap is still faster than I am with my own car. All About consistency.
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DRIVER 85%
SETUP 13%
EQUIPMENT 2%

Thats the formula in every class out there, not just vta.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:16 PM   #5073
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Great observation

.....and in my opinion, Brian is in the top 12-15 of "regular" USVTA participants from the WI,IL,IN, and OH areas. If there is anyone whose advice should be strongly taken into consideration, it would be his as well as a few others.
Imagine where he'd be with a little extra "ooomph".
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:39 PM   #5074
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Imagine where he'd be with a little extra "ooomph".
....imagine what would happen if other motor's were allowed. I have seen first hand..................

I truly meant what I said as a compliment, not a slight. I have had the pleasure of winning against and losing to Brian.
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[QUOTE=ercwhtsd;12490839]....imagine what would happen if other motor's were allowed. I have seen first hand..................
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That's why I won't run 17.5NR, the top guys have a new or different motor and/or battery every month

At the Reedy race most of the top guys in NR where smoking the motors every run

VTA is so awesome because we have one motor!
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Unfortunately around here, Scale Spec/VTA 21.5 outdoors is like this as well.
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....imagine what would happen if other motor's were allowed. I have seen first hand..................
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That's why I won't run 17.5NR, the top guys have a new or different motor and/or battery every month

At the Reedy race most of the top guys in NR where smoking the motors every run

VTA is so awesome because we have one motor!
1. Not true. I run with some top guys and they are not replacing motors/batteries every month.

2. Not true. I was there. Some motors smoked...but that happens everywhere.

3. I agree. The reason I am building a car is to test how good "I" am. With motors being so consistant, it really put pressure on the guy behind the wheel!

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Old 08-28-2013, 12:35 PM   #5078
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1. Not true. I run with some top guys and they are not replacing motors/batteries every month.

2. Not true. I was there. Some motors smoked...but that happens everywhere.

3. I agree. The reason I am building a car is to test how good "I" am. With motors being so consistant, it really put pressure on the guy behind the wheel!

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yes the team powers guys are sticking with their fast motors, other brand racers are switching...

NR motors do smoke everywhere, I wasnt saying the track caused it, as you said "some motors smoked" that was my point
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....imagine what would happen if other motor's were allowed. I have seen first hand..................
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That's why I won't run 17.5NR, the top guys have a new or different motor and/or battery every month

At the Reedy race most of the top guys in NR where smoking the motors every run

VTA is so awesome because we have one motor!
U can swap,replace or burn motors in every class, not just 17.5, same goes for the batteries.

Last time I checked, usvta rules allow 3 motors, not one.
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Last time I checked, usvta rules allow 3 motors, not one.
Three motors from one manufacturer who says they are all equal.

Do you disagree with Novak?

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Three motors from one manufacturer who says they are all equal.

Do you disagree with Novak?

So your saying we all use the same motor just with 3 different part#'s

All roar 25.5's are equal, do you disagree with roar?
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So your saying we all use the same motor just with 3 different part#'s

All roar 25.5's are equal, do you disagree with roar?
I said what I said. It is very clear.

As for your second question, you dance with the one that brought you.

If you need that explained: http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...0brought%20you
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U can swap,replace or burn motors in every class, not just 17.5, same goes for the batteries.

Last time I checked, usvta rules allow 3 motors, not one.
Never seen one smoke in VTA, I have seen many smoke in 17.5

yes 3 from ONE manu.

My point is in VTA nobody switches motor brands because some guy comes in with motor X and you have motor Y and he spanks you and you go out and buy motor X.

That is Exactly what I see happen in other spec classes all the time
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I said what I said. It is very clear.
What I said is very clear ... you can use 3 different motors from novak.
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So your saying we all use the same motor just with 3 different part#'s

All roar 25.5's are equal, do you disagree with roar?
The stator on all 3 novak motors is the same from what I know so basically its the same motor.

All ROAR 25.5's meet their rules and specs but that does not make them all equal in speed or power. If that was the case then there would never be any motor advancement with in motor companies once they make a ROAR approved motor.
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