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Old 07-17-2013, 09:20 AM   #4891
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:32 AM   #4892
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Voted usvta. I like the simplicity of it. If its not on the list, then it cant be run. I just wish TEKIN made an esc and motor that could even be considered for the class. But as it stands no locked spec mode esc and there 25.5 is not easily teched. I would like to run there stuff because there support for the military is the best I have ever seen from an RC company.
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Voted usvta. I like the simplicity of it. If its not on the list, then it cant be run. I just wish TEKIN made an esc and motor that could even be considered for the class. But as it stands no locked spec mode esc and there 25.5 is not easily teched. I would like to run there stuff because there support for the military is the best I have ever seen from an RC company.
Tekin esc have a spec mode" blinky" and could be considered for usvta but novak paids more. Tekin's 25.5 is a good motor.
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Tekin esc have a spec mode" blinky" and could be considered for usvta but novak paids more. Tekin's 25.5 is a good motor.
Please explain this statement.....
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Old 07-17-2013, 05:52 PM   #4896
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Hummmm....interesting
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Old 07-17-2013, 06:02 PM   #4897
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The Tekin esc has a "spec mode" (blinky), and could be considered for usvta- but novak pays (?!?!?!) more. Tekins 25.5 is a good motor.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:16 PM   #4898
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I think is was a little cynical myself, hinting that Novak is paying for being approved.

I asked a while back about other "blink" based speedos. It is the fact that they can be changed that takes ESCs of the list. Not that they have a light indicating stock timing. The speedo must not have the ability to be changed to be on the list. At least that is how I understand it.

At our local track, we do allow blinky ESCs to help people get into the class. There has been no indication that using a different esc is better than any other, at least at out track.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:28 PM   #4899
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have patience...you never know who might submit an esc to be added...
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have patience...you never know who might submit an esc to be added...
I love my Orion "race" series r10 pro. I guess it's called "stock" now. I use it in my F1, and It has no timing ability whatsoever. I no longer run VTA, but it would be nice if Orion would submit that one to be able to be used.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:13 PM   #4901
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have patience...you never know who might submit an esc to be added...
Myron, did a little birdie tell you something? I would love to get a Tekin RS USVTA Edition ( no ability to flash upgrade or adjust timing).

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Tekin esc have a spec mode" blinky" and could be considered for usvta but novak paids more. Tekin's 25.5 is a good motor.
You really don't want to go there. Novak paid more? That's laughable. I guess that every other manufacturer on the USVTA list paid too? It's real simple. The rules were set and any manufacturer who wants to produce a USVTA legal ESC can follow the rules set by the organization. There are currently 22 different ESCs from 4 different manufacturers (5 if you count the CRC rebadged Hobbywing). Only 5 of the 15 Novak ESCs on the list are still in production. Two GTBs with X-Drive (normal and low profile heatsinks), two Edges (Tamiya or Traxxas battery connector) and the Club esc.

Oh and on Blinky ESCs having an advantage? I had an Edge fry and sent it back to Novak for warranty. The club let me run an RS Pro for a few weeks until the Edge came back. My car gained about .2 seconds a lap and has more punch coming out of the corners using the RS Pro running Vegas 212.

The motor is real simple. It seems that all the other manufacturers are trying to build motors that are just a little bit faster than the Novak. If any 25.5 was allowed, pretty soon it would be the "motor of the week" and that is the last thing you want in VTA.

Sorry I vented guys but last time this argument started it consumed 30 to 40 pages of the thread and I don't want to get emails every 15 minutes about another post arguing about ESCs
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In my neck of the woods, it seems that "the other vta rule-set" has been declared numero uno. Can't wait to fork out $$$ for whatever battery / esc / motor combo is the best at the moment. Well, rant over. Can't do anything except deal with it and run till I get tired of it all, like I did in TC years ago. I like the class though so I'll try to stay positive about it.
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Tekin esc have a spec mode" blinky" and could be considered for usvta but novak paids more. Tekin's 25.5 is a good motor.
Really????

Having been involved with USVTA, in one way or another, from it's inception. I would beg to differ with your statement.
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Group A get together and VTA is born, with and brother or two..lol

Group A welcomes older tech 27t/4cell to the crib, along with bodies and tires ect

Group A then gets hit with new tech that will soon be the norm

Group A goes with it with 17.5/4 cell..lol..

Group A rethinks and out comes a 21.5 motor but with a twist...lipo?

Group A intros the new formula to Group B, and they make it part of there "national races"

Group A and B notice that a esc war is brewing ei Black Diamond

Group A decides enough is enough and reaches out to mfg to help with this issue that was apon us

Company A is the only...ONLY one that considered Group A racing class worth helping

Company A puts together a specific motor for the class that nobody else thought was worth anything

do you see where this is going...Im sleepy...to be continued...5:30 am...geez...72 hrs of no sleep
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I wish people would stop trying to "fix" what isn't broken. Novak stepped up to the plate and produced what was needed to make the class work in the electric side of things. HPIs bodies are the most detailed and best looking to my eyes but they are not the only legal ones. A few others are now seeing something to be had there such as Speed Passion and McAllister. Nobody else but HPI is making the tires and wheels that look period correct as well as the consistent performance.

A lot of clubs are overlooking various parts of the rules to get more people in, but to get in the A Main and keep the win, you must be legal.
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