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Old 11-20-2012, 06:22 AM   #2761
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Just to interject in the spirit of VTA...learn to drive! Myron could have won that race with an old boot, a rusty pair of scissors, and a 2 week old banana powering his TC3.

Joking of course.
joke no the truth yes and as far as an esc difference i run a club spec esc and a ballistic motor and have not seen any difference in power or temp
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Well how did all you Guys do this weekend ?

I did terrible I got beat by my own car 1st
And then by another that wasn't even a legal USVTA car

So I lend my backup car to a good friend and racer
Who is a great driver and he puts me a lap down
With it lmao
sooo now I know that car is GOOD maybe it should be the primary car lol

Then I find out the guy behind me is running a tekin RS pro ESC
And a 25.5 with no ring on it and to be honest it got in my head
The entire race I was so thinking that this sucks
I spend all this time and effort to be legal And this guy is like way faster now
Then in qualifying that I couldn't even focus on my own car ?.

Guess I will have to sit in on tha VTA tech at the next race
Yep this is your warning if your watching boys
USVTA means approved equipment only I WILL BE WATCHING
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Honestly the Tekin RS in blinky mode had not proven to be faster than any other esc at our track. You really have nothing to worry about.
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I've honestly seen differently at our track. Guy had a car that was QUICK one weekend compared to everyone else.... we looked at gearing, timing, etc....... next week he has a gtb2 and was back to the same as everyone else. Quite curious
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Just to interject in the spirit of VTA...learn to drive! Myron could have won that race with an old boot, a rusty pair of scissors, and a 2 week old banana powering his TC3.

Joking of course.
a Tekin shouldnt be ran in USVTA if you are using USVTA rules...unless he/she was given a bye by the track owner or something of that method...

The main issue is that when you allow "special" house rules you make ppl wonder and that leads to spending money....This is what I think is why the ROAR VTA races suffer. You have no idea what ppl are running. The ROAR Pav Nats should have been 3 heats deep at least for VTA. Being in the middle of USVTA country, it should have been a plenty of guys from IL alone.

but anyway...keep racing and do whats best for your track to keep ppl racing VTA. It all comes down to support...but just to clear it up, Tekin esc is NOT on the list...YET!!
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:34 AM   #2763
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joke no the truth yes and as far as an esc difference i run a club spec esc and a ballistic motor and have not seen any difference in power or temp
and most wont see anything...if you ask 10 ppl that have done their own testing,(or say they have..lol) you will get 5 guys that says "Blinky" is all the same, the other 5 will say this is faster or smoother or more adjustments, which makes it "faster"

but this is why the USVTA esc list takes time bringing in new esc's and making sure whatever gets added, is tested by different racers and tracks to make sure its whats best for the class.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:44 AM   #2764
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and most wont see anything...if you ask 10 ppl that have done their own testing,(or say they have..lol) you will get 5 guys that says "Blinky" is all the same, the other 5 will say this is faster or smoother or more adjustments, which makes it "faster"

but this is why the USVTA esc list takes time bringing in new esc's and making sure whatever gets added, is tested by different racers and tracks to make sure its whats best for the class.
thank you+1
and yes i think he was given a BYE for this was his first time in vta
and we are using USVTA rules and i will be checking every car my self
next race
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a Tekin shouldnt be ran in USVTA if you are using USVTA rules...unless he/she was given a bye by the track owner or something of that method...

The main issue is that when you allow "special" house rules you make ppl wonder and that leads to spending money....This is what I think is why the ROAR VTA races suffer. You have no idea what ppl are running. The ROAR Pav Nats should have been 3 heats deep at least for VTA. Being in the middle of USVTA country, it should have been a plenty of guys from IL alone.
but anyway...keep racing and do whats best for your track to keep ppl racing VTA. It all comes down to support...but just to clear it up, Tekin esc is NOT on the list...YET!!
YES YES YES SIR AGAIN +1
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:06 AM   #2766
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Did I mention the old boot belonged to Chuck Norris?
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Did I mention the old boot belonged to Chuck Norris?
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:02 PM   #2768
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Now you've gone and done it.
Yep, you were right! Sorry! I usually try to stay out of the thread.
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Honestly the Tekin RS in blinky mode had not proven to be faster than any other esc at our track. You really have nothing to worry about.
This has been hashed, rehashed, triple hashed, (begin loop here).

You know I am a fan of Tekin. Love their stuff, and when we first went to the current generation of rules, I was for allowing blinky mode speed controllers. Then that Vegas fiasco happened where the blinky mode had timing advancement. Tekin got it sorted out but it also left doubt behind as to how level the playing field would be with updatable ESC's on the list.

I could see the possibility of someone with the skills breaking the code and then all the sudden every Tekin blinky is faster than everything else.

I am still hoping Tekin will come through with an acceptable ESC. I think they may have dropped the ball on that one in spite of the teaser that Jim left in here a few weeks ago.
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This has been hashed, rehashed, triple hashed, (begin loop here).

You know I am a fan of Tekin. Love their stuff, and when we first went to the current generation of rules, I was for allowing blinky mode speed controllers. Then that Vegas fiasco happened where the blinky mode had timing advancement. Tekin got it sorted out but it also left doubt behind as to how level the playing field would be with updatable ESC's on the list.

I could see the possibility of someone with the skills breaking the code and then all the sudden every Tekin blinky is faster than everything else.

I am still hoping Tekin will come through with an acceptable ESC. I think they may have dropped the ball on that one in spite of the teaser that Jim left in here a few weeks ago.
RC racers are fickle. If I had designed an ESC that made oodles of power out of thin air, and negated the motor and battery wars that were driving RC into the ground, I would have stopped making plain old ESC's too. Who woulda thunk that a TC racer that can figure out anti-dive roll center camber gain blah blah could not figure out a couple sliders on a computer screen.

Not bitter or anything...
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I hope the Orion R10 stock will get tested and approved for the vta esc list.
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I hope the Orion R10 stock will get tested and approved for the vta esc list.

hey Buddy, we are going to need you to remove that post please Sir....lol
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:22 PM   #2773
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We don't need any more stinking ESC's. There are already 14 to pick from.

USVTA Approved ESCs:
NOVAK-
  1. Novak Club Brushless ESC (#1852)
  2. Novak Edge 2S Brushless ESC (#1850, 1851)
  3. Novak Mongoose Micro Brushless/Brush ESC (#1718)
  4. Novak GTB2 Racing w/X-Drive (#1749)
  5. Novak GTB2 Racing w/X-Drive- Low Profile (#1748)
  6. Novak GTB 2 Sportsman Racing Brushless ESC (#1708, 1709)
  7. Novak GTB series part numbers: 1710, 1711
  8. Novak Havoc series part numbers: 1732, 1733, 1735
  9. Novak Slyder (DISCONTINUED) part number: 1712
  10. Novak XBR (DISCONTINUED) part number:1720

LRP
  1. LRP A.i. Brushless Reverse part numbers: LRP80100, LRP80150

SPEED PASSION
  1. Speed Passion Cirtix Stock Club Race ESC part number: 12280
  2. Speed Passion Reventon Stock Club Race part number: SP000048

HOBBYWING
  1. Hobbywing Juststock Club ESC
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So if you already own ESCs that are on the approved list, why are you so opposed to having more ESCs being tested and approved? It isn't like you would need to buy new equipment, and if it means more people can run VTA...why the complaining?
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Yep, you were right! Sorry! I usually try to stay out of the thread.
Same here. But its like watching two trains on the same track headed towards one another. You know what's going to happen but its hard not to watch.

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So if you already own ESCs that are on the approved list, why are you so opposed to having more ESCs being tested and approved? It isn't like you would need to buy new equipment, and if it means more people can run VTA...why the complaining?
What else would some of these guys talk about then?
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