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Old 11-04-2012, 08:58 AM   #2446
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The 40wt oil is going to feel like a really loose ball diff. Most are running between 1000cst to 2000cst in a gear diff. The way I was explained was if you have a high traction track you can run a lighter oil and if you have a lower traction track you can run a thicker oil. AE 70wt shock oil is 900cst and their 80wt is 1000cst. I would adjust according to the available traction you have. I run 2000cst in my cars at my home track which is low to med grip.
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XRAY recommends 600 to 800 cst for low traction tracks and 900 to 2000 cst for higher traction tracks for a rear differential. Softer oil increases rear reaction and harder (thicker) oils increase on power steering. if you are running a front diff the consensus is around 300,000cst oil.
Thanks for the help but both your statements contradict each other.
Jerz you say thick oil low-mid, thinner high bite
were as
GP40X quoting XRAY states the opposite.....
Also I think you meant softer oil increases rear traction and not reaction.

From researching the AE gear diff runs 30-50wt on team setups with a spool up front in TC on high bite tracks.
The Spec-R gear diff was in the 1000cst - 3000cst range.
I did notice one AE team drivers setup that he was running 2000cst on high bite carpet.

Well test and tune time.
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Thanks for the help but both your statements contradict each other.
Jerz you say thick oil low-mid, thinner high bite
were as
GP40X quoting XRAY states the opposite.....
Also I think you meant softer oil increases rear traction and not reaction.

From researching the AE gear diff runs 30-50wt on team setups with a spool up front in TC on high bite tracks.
The Spec-R gear diff was in the 1000cst - 3000cst range.
I did notice one AE team drivers setup that he was running 2000cst on high bite carpet.

Well test and tune time.
Yep, I meant traction. Fumble fingers strike again. Also that information is directly from the T3`12 instruction manual.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:21 AM   #2448
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Yep, I meant traction. Fumble fingers strike again. Also that information is directly from the T3`12 instruction manual.
Yup that's how I found your little typo....
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I ran my first VTA races last nite.. The question about usvta rules 25.5 motor..my endbell timing at 38deg and fdr gearing is 3.80 ..the motor came off the track very cool at 110 deg.. I did gear at 3.6 at first heat and it wasn't any faster than 3.8fdr
but I was able to shave .5 off my best paces...3.8 fdr
what is the best gearing and timing for this novak 25.5? large carpet track
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Hi
I ran my first VTA races last nite.. The question about usvta rules 25.5 motor..my endbell timing at 38deg and fdr gearing is 3.80 ..the motor came off the track very cool at 110 deg.. I did gear at 3.6 at first heat and it wasn't any faster than 3.8fdr
but I was able to shave .5 off my best paces...3.8 fdr
what is the best gearing and timing for this novak 25.5? large carpet track
Try running 0 timing and 3.8 fdr, see what happens.
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Hi
I ran my first VTA races last nite.. The question about usvta rules 25.5 motor..my endbell timing at 38deg and fdr gearing is 3.80 ..the motor came off the track very cool at 110 deg.. I did gear at 3.6 at first heat and it wasn't any faster than 3.8fdr
but I was able to shave .5 off my best paces...3.8 fdr
what is the best gearing and timing for this novak 25.5? large carpet track
Im not sure how big your track is...but our (Thunder RC),is around 95x50?..and Im at 3.6-3.8 at around 37 deg, depending on traction temp around 90-110deg...are you running a fan?
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Im not sure how big your track is...but our (Thunder RC),is around 95x50?..and Im at 3.6-3.8 at around 37 deg, depending on traction temp around 90-110deg...are you running a fan?
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yes I;'m running the fan and gearing at 3.8 with 38deg on the motor..I think our track is 60X100 here the video of our track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRrjk...layer_embedded
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yes I;'m running the fan and gearing at 3.8 with 38deg on the motor..I think our track is 60X100 here the video of our track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRrjk...layer_embedded
Ova that's a very nice size track looks like a fun place to race
Had a good flow to it
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Hi guys. I don't know if i asked this before or someone else do it before but according the USVTA rules we need to put in the car a pilot figure. But who made this piece and where can i buy it???

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Driver Figure part numbers (ANY suitable 1/10 driver figure is legal-these are readily available examples)

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#104815 INNER BODY SET FOR DT-1 TRUCK BODY

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Driver Figure part numbers (ANY suitable 1/10 driver figure is legal-these are readily available examples)

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#104815 INNER BODY SET FOR DT-1 TRUCK BODY

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6180 Driver, unpainted, 1:10

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#423 Stock Interior and Driver
#419 SPRINT CAR DRIVER
Darkside, thanks a lot. But where can i find it?

Towerhobbies has only the HPI pilots. I need to see the others..

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Old 11-05-2012, 11:04 AM   #2457
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I just finished building a Tamiya F1 car. They have some awesome drivers. Perfect for VTA too. The 1/10th driver figure that came with the car would be a nice scale choice for VTA. I put the face shield on him. That didn't come with the kit. Just cut it from scrap lexan.

Next time you are at your LHS or looking on line, check for Tamiya F1 driver figures. There are several they make.

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i just ran my firs vta race last weekend my car is a 415 msxx mre and im running the tekin rs pro and tekin 25.5, ive noticed these motors take a bit of time to get the right timing and gearing just right, our track is like 90x50 or somewhere around there and i ended up running 30 degrees on can with a 4.0 fdr, i still have to do some more testing, id like to lower the fdr a bit and see how it runs, im coming off the track at 150 degrees with no fan, maybe add some more gear and less timing
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:29 AM   #2459
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building a vta car. chassis i am using is either 08 or 09 xray . i will be installing the novak edge esc with ballistic 25.5 blue label motor what i need is a good starting point for gearing and chassis setup shocks, ride height, front and rear sway bar,ect i brought the chassis as a roller it came with rear ball diff and a one way up front. thank in advance for any advise giving
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Can i use this pilot from proline?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Interior-Clear

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