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Old 09-07-2012, 02:00 PM   #1801
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let's see...we've had the

motor arguement
the speedo arguement
the weight arguement
driver requirement arguement

where's the battery arguement guy?? need that for the perfect way to end the week
Okay, okay, here ya go. LETS GET THIS STARTED!

WHY CAN'T WE USE THE LATEST 500C 3 GAZILLION MAH BATTERY IN USVTA?
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:02 PM   #1802
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Okay, okay, here ya go. LETS GET THIS STARTED!

WHY CAN'T WE USE THE LATEST 500C 3 GAZILLION MAH BATTERY IN USVTA?
ahhhhh

now my week feels like its complete
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:04 PM   #1803
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let's see...we've had the

motor arguement
the speedo arguement
the weight arguement
driver requirement arguement

where's the battery arguement guy?? need that for the perfect way to end the week
Wings and spoilers.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:05 PM   #1804
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ahhhhh

now my week feels like its complete
Not yet ... still haven't heard from the HPI 1978 PONTIAC FIREBIRD BODY crowd.

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Just my 2 -

No where does it say, "Hey, to bust our chops contact us!"
I'm not trying to bust chops, I am asking questions to try to be more informed and get a better understanding of the choices being made. I will say that there's a lot of innuendo and paranoia about cheating in this class. In many ways it reminds me of the Tamiya Mini Class, however unlike my experiences in VTA there were people caught cheating in Mini.

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the speedo issue is based off people 'accidently' leaving boost on, or leaving it in the 'wrong' mode - be it a legit accident or to cheat...

and for a class like this, it needs to stay this way...I'm sure you've been at a race where someone 'accidently' left their speedo in the wrong mode or the preception that bubba over there has their speedos programmed different...I know you've been around for a long while and I'm sure you've seen this at least a few times..

the list takes this out of the equation - sure, it doesn't kill the this speedo is better then that speedo game, but it removes the 'he's cheating because his is not in blinky mode' bullcrap

so if you feel ROAR-spec VTA is what you need at your track, then go for it..but as a whole (all across the US), the USVTA rules work pretty damn good

but that's just my 2 cents
My experience with any spec class, TCS, VTA, et-al, is you will always have people claiming the fast guys are cheating. You can either police things or let it fester. If you have someone that had "accidentally" left their ESC in non-blinky mode then their runs are thrown out for the night. If people have a question one-way or another then tech the cars. And to answer your question, no, I've never been to a race where someone "accidentally" left their gear in non-blinky mode. However I have been at the track when someone admitted to having a 17-double in a stock can and complaining the other guy had to be cheating because he was and the other guy was faster. That was an awkward night at the track

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I think he mistook your "no driver required" as part of the roar description rules, thought you meant no driving skill required instead of no driver figure required.

Just a guess
Exactly. I guess I didn't know there was a VTA requirement for a figure. When I first started running VTA when it started at Trackside and The Track there was a recommendation for a driver's figure but not a requirement. But this is also back in the 4-cell/stock motor days too.
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Who made ROAR god of RC where all classes need to conform to them? Do all tracks need to start requiring membership fees on top of race fees? ROAR does so by alot of your thinking so should every track....sounds stupid dont it? Dont like USVTA...dont run it, real simple. I cant stand ROAR so I refuse to attend any ROAR event, or race at a track that strictly goes by ROAR's dictatorship. Do people argue to run Truggy tires on a buggy? No cause its the rules of the class.
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I'm not trying to bust chops, I am asking questions to try to be more informed and get a better understanding of the choices being made. I will say that there's a lot of innuendo and paranoia about cheating in this class. In many ways it reminds me of the Tamiya Mini Class, however unlike my experiences in VTA there were people caught cheating in Mini.
You will have to pardon some of us who are poking fun at the different arguments for ESC, battery, motor, weight, body, and drivers arguments but we have been seeing the same arguments come up for years (read all of the pages in both the USVTA part one and this thread and you will see what I mean). Some of the reasons for the current rule set is to both stop the cheating accusations before they start and to keep costs down.
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I think he mistook your "no driver required" as part of the roar description rules, thought you meant no driving skill required instead of no driver figure required.

Just a guess
ditto...

also the wt is simple...older chassis are heavier...its easy to add, but to take wt away is a issue...my TC3 w/o wt is at 1620...my TC6.1 w/o weight is 1390...
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...older chassis are heavier...its easy to add, but to take wt away is a issue...
I can vouch for that... I'm 240lbs. When I was younger/newer I was 170!
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You will have to pardon some of us who are poking fun at the different arguments for ESC, battery, motor, weight, body, and drivers arguments but we have been seeing the same arguments come up for years (read all of the pages in both the USVTA part one and this thread and you will see what I mean). Some of the reasons for the current rule set is to both stop the cheating accusations before they start and to keep costs down.
It keep costs down only for those getting into racing not those already racing. I guess that's the people you guys are trying to get? Those of us who race other classes and already have equipment it costs more cause we can't run the stuff we already have. I thought the whole point of this class was to be inexpensive to run and your sapose to be able to run old equipment to keep cost down , I guess that only counts for the chassis. I ran vta at carpet nats and had a blast but if I would of had to buy a inferior brand ( in my oppinion) esc I wouldn't have ran the class. Anyways these questions and arguments go nowhere so what's the point.
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It keep costs down only for those getting into racing not those already racing. I guess that's the people you guys are trying to get? Those of us who race other classes and already have equipment it costs more cause we can't run the stuff we already have. I thought the whole point of this class was to be inexpensive to run and your sapose to be able to run old equipment to keep cost down , I guess that only counts for the chassis. I ran vta at carpet nats and had a blast but if I would of had to buy a inferior brand ( in my oppinion) esc I wouldn't have ran the class. Anyways these questions and arguments go nowhere so what's the point.
Most of us who are already in racing also have most of the components to get a VTA car going (radio, servo, receover, older on road chassis, maybe an older ESC on the list). Main expenses are the VTA body, tires & wheels, 5000 mah hard case battery and Novak VTA legal motor (or another 25.5 if your local club allows that). Citrix, LRP and Novak all have legal ESCs. If Tekin or Orion would make a non programable non dynamic timing ESC then I would buy one of those. Right now I am fully USVTA legal even though our local club allows any Mah battery and any 25.5 motor. Get with your local club and modify the rules to suit your needs
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The Official USVTA rule set is a lighthouse. Thank you Robk for tending it so well. And thank you Myron for making supply runs to the light house.
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The Official USVTA rule set is a lighthouse. Thank you Robk for tending it so well. And thank you Myron for making supply runs to the light house.
BIG +1 and Myron, is the new "BLUE" item gonna pass muster?
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Who made ROAR god of RC where all classes need to conform to them? Do all tracks need to start requiring membership fees on top of race fees? ROAR does so by alot of your thinking so should every track....sounds stupid dont it? Dont like USVTA...dont run it, real simple. I cant stand ROAR so I refuse to attend any ROAR event, or race at a track that strictly goes by ROAR's dictatorship. Do people argue to run Truggy tires on a buggy? No cause its the rules of the class.
ummm...that would be IFMAR - the ones who made ROAR the god of all RC
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