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Old 03-30-2012, 08:06 AM   #151
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Apparently it came with the body and I was told it was legal because according to USTVA rules it offered "no advantage whatsoever"..
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Apparently it came with the body and I was told it was legal because according to USTVA rules it offered "no advantage whatsoever"..
TC wings are illegal....the trunk spoilers are legal...and on the HPI 1970 Boss, the spoiler is legal

here are some pics...Ive put the Camaro and Cud spoiler on my Mustangs before for looks...these are all legal
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:57 AM   #153
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TC wings are illegal....the trunk spoilers are legal...and on the HPI 1970 Boss, the spoiler is legal

here are some pics...Ive put the Camaro and Cud spoiler on my Mustangs before for looks...these are all legal
There's something I'd like to see clarification on. I'm reading the "Body provided deck lid spoilers allowed" rule to mean that only the spoiler included with a particular body is allowed. That would make putting a Cuda spoiler on a Mustang fastback illegal. It's the way I believe most tracks around here have translated it as well.
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:01 AM   #154
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There's something I'd like to see clarification on. I'm reading the "Body provided deck lid spoilers allowed" rule to mean that only the spoiler included with a particular body is allowed. That would make putting a Cuda spoiler on a Mustang fastback illegal. It's the way I believe most tracks around here have translated it as well.

Exactly. Why not just remove the spoilers/wings altogether if some offer an advantage and some don't? It was my understanding that only scale spoilers were allowed, not gianormous ricer wings.
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Some legal bodies have the spoiler molded in (J71). So it would be tough to eliminate them. You are correct about the wings. The only question is whether you can take the spoiler from one body kit and use it on another.

On small tracks with a lot of grip, spoilers don't make much of a difference. But on larger or medium to low grip tracks (Leisure Hours Raceway - Joliet, IL) spoilers do offer some advantage. So you will see very few people racing any Mustangs unless they are real fans. Personally, I'd like to see the spoiler rule as Darkside described it, because it might make the field of car bodies more diverse. But I've just never seen the rules interpreted that way.
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I always thought that 68 Camaro Spoiler was poorly attached and easily destroyed.

Anyone come up with some good mounting options? I always leave it off so i don't have to worry about dragging it around the track for a few laps.
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I always thought that 68 Camaro Spoiler was poorly attached and easily destroyed.

Anyone come up with some good mounting options? I always leave it off so i don't have to worry about dragging it around the track for a few laps.
Leave some extra lexan on the front of it and use that to bolt it down to the body...this way its secured in the front as well as the rear. Just dont trim it out on the trim line on the front edge you will see how you can use that little extra to bolt it down and it wont come off as easy.
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I always thought that 68 Camaro Spoiler was poorly attached and easily destroyed.

Anyone come up with some good mounting options? I always leave it off so i don't have to worry about dragging it around the track for a few laps.
Don't use any bolts or screws because they will just cut through the plastic. Instead use a dab of Shoe Goo on 4 spots inside the spoiler; a dab on each end of the spoiler and a dab on the spots where you would typically put the screws through. Since I started using this technique I've had none of my spoilers come off during a race.
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Good tips, thanks!!!

I'll have to do some experimenting. I'm running on a larger track now, but i didn't feel like i was missing anything by NOT having a spoiler
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I always thought that 68 Camaro Spoiler was poorly attached and easily destroyed.

Anyone come up with some good mounting options? I always leave it off so i don't have to worry about dragging it around the track for a few laps.
I use the stock rear screws, then a piece of chassis film over the top of the spoiler stuck to the spoiler AND the body, or a sticker instead of film
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There's something I'd like to see clarification on. I'm reading the "Body provided deck lid spoilers allowed" rule to mean that only the spoiler included with a particular body is allowed. That would make putting a Cuda spoiler on a Mustang fastback illegal. It's the way I believe most tracks around here have translated it as well.

where is this?...Ive raced many tracks and have run that Mustang w/ the Camaro/Cuda spoiler many times...

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Exactly. Why not just remove the spoilers/wings altogether if some offer an advantage and some don't? It was my understanding that only scale spoilers were allowed, not gianormous ricer wings.
no TC wings....but the scale spoilers...it doesnt offer any advantage other than looks imo...
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Leave some extra lexan on the front of it and use that to bolt it down to the body...this way its secured in the front as well as the rear. Just dont trim it out on the trim line on the front edge you will see how you can use that little extra to bolt it down and it wont come off as easy.
ditto...Ive been doing this for years and its works perfect...I use the same one over and over again...rather I run a Mustang or Camaro
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where is this?...Ive raced many tracks and have run that Mustang w/ the Camaro/Cuda spoiler many times...



no TC wings....but the scale spoilers...it doesnt offer any advantage other than looks imo...
just because you don't drive well enough to tell the difference doesn't mean there isn't an advantage. the spolier does make an advantage

and I'm the one that showed you to leave some on the front of the spoiler to bolt it down I believe.... I also leave a T section on the back to double stick, to give it extra rigidity that is required for some of the beating and banging that happens in VTA. I'll see if I can take a picture of mine.
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just because you don't drive well enough to tell the difference doesn't mean there isn't an advantage. the spolier does make an advantage

and I'm the one that showed you to leave some on the front of the spoiler to bolt it down I believe.... I also leave a T section on the back to double stick, to give it extra rigidity that is required for some of the beating and banging that happens in VTA. I'll see if I can take a picture of mine.
I drive well enough to put you a lap down...now what...lol
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I always thought that 68 Camaro Spoiler was poorly attached and easily destroyed.

Anyone come up with some good mounting options? I always leave it off so i don't have to worry about dragging it around the track for a few laps.
Like the others say, I leave a strip on the front of mine, but I cut a slit in the body and tuck that strip into the body and under the trunklid so you don't see the extra strip and just shoe-goo it and it looks clean. You could also do that to the back of the spoiler so you don't have to worry about the screws breaking through.
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