1.18+ cells -vs- orion's 1.19= cells
02-14-2005, 01:50 PM
#91
I've been running almost exclusively Orion packs in my personal race cars for about the last 18-months or so, and this thread caught my attention. My Orion packs have always run strong and stayed strong for quite some time. I just bought 2 Orion Packs, I don't have them in front of me so I don't remember exact runtime but one was like a 428 @ 1.197 and the other was like a 435 @ 1.191. I know the 1.197 had a touch less run time. I built them and cycled them on my T35 BL Stealth. First of all people do need to realize that when you cycle a pack the numbers will be a bit lower normally than the labels because you're adding in resistance to the circuit (solder, battery bars, plus the potential heat during solder). That being said here's how they came out:
1.191= 7.11 ave volts, 7.13 @ 1v, 421 seconds of run time
1.197= 7.13 ave volts, 7.14 @ 1v, 417 seconds of run time
So as a pack the 1.191's ave per cell were 1.185's over the entire curve, 1.188's @ 1v and the 1.197's were 1.188's over the curve and 1.190's @ 1v. And while I was cycling packs I also re-did a Hurricane Pack that I had bought about 6 weeks ago. The label was a 1.177 @ 403 (I think). That pack came off as a 7.02 (1.170) and 386 runtime.
These numbers represent the 2nd charge/discharge cycle with roughly a 6 hour gap between cycles on each pack.
1.191= 7.11 ave volts, 7.13 @ 1v, 421 seconds of run time
1.197= 7.13 ave volts, 7.14 @ 1v, 417 seconds of run time
So as a pack the 1.191's ave per cell were 1.185's over the entire curve, 1.188's @ 1v and the 1.197's were 1.188's over the curve and 1.190's @ 1v. And while I was cycling packs I also re-did a Hurricane Pack that I had bought about 6 weeks ago. The label was a 1.177 @ 403 (I think). That pack came off as a 7.02 (1.170) and 386 runtime.
These numbers represent the 2nd charge/discharge cycle with roughly a 6 hour gap between cycles on each pack.
02-15-2005, 12:20 AM
#92
Gary guess you got lucky. I'm in the process of purchasing packs from different manufacturers straight from a retail store. I will then send these packs to someone who will test them the results will then be posted for everyone to see.
Last edited by Danny/SMC; 02-15-2005 at 12:26 AM.
02-15-2005, 12:32 AM
#95
Maybe Orion has changed the way they setup their TM-4 to give more accurate readings. Last time we checked their cells they were .015-.02 off on voltage an 30 seconds on runtime. Guess we will have to see once we get our newest packs from the different manufacturers.
02-15-2005, 06:19 AM
#99
Tech Master
Originally posted by the true
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Mr Sharpe-if i speak another kind of language, would you smart enough to undersatand?
Please try!
We can always pass it thrue Alta Vista Babel fish...
02-15-2005, 07:56 AM
#100
Originally posted by Danny/SMC
Gary guess you got lucky. I'm in the process of purchasing packs from different manufacturers straight from a retail store. I will then send these packs to someone who will test them the results will then be posted for everyone to see.
Gary guess you got lucky. I'm in the process of purchasing packs from different manufacturers straight from a retail store. I will then send these packs to someone who will test them the results will then be posted for everyone to see.
02-15-2005, 09:21 AM
#101
Rick our test will not be about track performance it will be about numbers we get on various companies packs. I'm sure that Orion/Peak packs perform good.
To do a track test would require us to buy to many packs to try and find some with the same numbers from each manufacturer.
To do a track test would require us to buy to many packs to try and find some with the same numbers from each manufacturer.
02-15-2005, 10:12 AM
#102
Tech Addict
Hello all,
I have just read from the beginning of this thread. I have to agree with Danny that I don't believe there is like 1.19AV 460sec existing for GP3300. I have tested over 500 cells from GP lastest batch and the highest # is like 1.188. The 1.188 cell has even been zapped by our custom made industrial zapper.
But one thing seems like you guys missing an important matter of testing the cell is room temperature while cell in the TM. This makes huge different.
The higher room temp. = higher AV, lower IR and lower Runtime vice versa
So orion 1.19 pack is impossible to have 460sec to me
ioxqq
I have just read from the beginning of this thread. I have to agree with Danny that I don't believe there is like 1.19AV 460sec existing for GP3300. I have tested over 500 cells from GP lastest batch and the highest # is like 1.188. The 1.188 cell has even been zapped by our custom made industrial zapper.
But one thing seems like you guys missing an important matter of testing the cell is room temperature while cell in the TM. This makes huge different.
The higher room temp. = higher AV, lower IR and lower Runtime vice versa
So orion 1.19 pack is impossible to have 460sec to me
ioxqq
02-15-2005, 01:18 PM
#103
Who the phuck cares what the damn numbers say. Its a reference! I have batteries from Orion that say 430 sec and 1.19 vlts, Fukyamama 420 sec 18.6 vlt, and Robotic power solutions 430sec with 1.187 vlt aswell as fusions with 410 sec and 1.175 runtime.
I wont say which one runs the best because I havent done a controlled test. Ex: same motor, condition, climate what ever!
The point is all the batteries run about the same. Some have more noticble punch then others and some lost that rip quicker then others. I can assure you that the orions are no slouch! I wish I were on the team tell you that much.
The ontrack performance is how I know if I bought junk or not.
I wont say which one runs the best because I havent done a controlled test. Ex: same motor, condition, climate what ever!
The point is all the batteries run about the same. Some have more noticble punch then others and some lost that rip quicker then others. I can assure you that the orions are no slouch! I wish I were on the team tell you that much.
The ontrack performance is how I know if I bought junk or not.
02-15-2005, 04:36 PM
#104
Suspended
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Last edited by cr250; 10-19-2013 at 01:56 PM.
02-15-2005, 04:56 PM
#105
maybe lets wait for the 2.0