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Old 02-23-2005, 11:49 AM   #136
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THERE was no flaming of the quality of orion product im sure they are fantasic i only questioned how long it takes to ship out a pack it took 4 weeks does tht not seem like a long time to you? besides its a 6 cell i run 4 cell i dont want to ruin the match by running it the adding to cells to give to this kid. so there!
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:07 PM   #137
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Speedworld has IB3600 single cells for $4.55. John just bought a case. They are all virgin cell no matter if you buy 6 or 250, what a great deal if you have your own matcher
They also caary the match packs of IB'S.
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:08 AM   #138
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Originally posted by Jack Rimer
So I assume that your 1.195 Orion pack would translate into 1.192 for SMC according to your formula. Since we don't consistently see anything over 1.19 I can only conclude that The Orion numbers are seriously skewed compared to the industry standard (SMC, Trinity, Fusion, Pro-Match, Fukiyama, etc). Take that pack and cycle it, then cycle your SMC the exact same way and I would bet you will be surprised. I think more than one person can vouch for this. I am in no way degrading anyone's cells, however it is important to compare apples to apples.
I agree with where jack is going. I purchased 2 packs of these cells, they were sitting for only a couple weeks prior to me purchasing them ( silly me, why were SMC 1.175's and Whiplash 1.175 selling before 1.119....were people crazy) so I jumped all over them.

I get them home, put them on a heating pad for a little bit ( hey I want to see some good numbers) then put them in the old Turbo Matcher ( same one smc uses and now the same one orion is using)... The cells cycled out to be 1.156 each on average per cell I had one that was a 1.161. Run time on the cells were all 444 8 cells, all the exact same lables 1.190 444sec. not one cell was over 370.

They now are in a friends lathe box, they never sw the carpet. These are probally the best lathe batteries on the markey folks!

You ever wonder why you really don't see SMC, Whiplash,Fukawhoever,Promatch 1.190+ cells on the shel at your LHS cause they are so few and fare inbetween that only top team drivers get these. If the public is getting 1.190+ from Orion what does Hara's lables say 2.50? lol

Seriously, just like in life if its too good to be true.... usually it is!

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Old 03-12-2005, 06:27 AM   #139
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ProMatch is selling off its high numbers right now but only two at a time guys. The sale is like this 1.185+ 400+ and what I got in the mail yesterday was one pack 1.186 & 423 the other pack was 1.188 424+ both pack are just waiting for some solder.
Go to there website.
Hope this helps give everyone an edge. I know a few guys better watch out next weekend....
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:15 PM   #140
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Old 03-13-2005, 07:47 AM   #141
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Originally posted by B&O
Typically, high voltage will tends to lead to shorter runtime and vice versa...

Maybe I am wrong, don't know??
No, you are not. The total amount of energy in a cell isn't measured by Mah but in Joules

Joules = discharge-amps X voltage.

So higher voltage means more energy is discharged in the same time. Thus for a cell to have a high voltage and a long runtime it needs to hold a lot of joules (or Watt-hour)

Same goes for using high voltage cells, if you have 1.15 / 420 packs and 1.18 / 420 packs, the 1.15 packs will last longer.
(Motor don't draw a fixed amperage like dischargers)
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:01 PM   #142
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Anyone who got the newest GP3700 cells. I have heard that it has sligthly larger dia. According to the GP website it is 23mm. anyone please confirm this.
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:01 AM   #143
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Battery matching has become a game like any other IMHO. Although I admit I don't know everything about matching... differences in cutoff, etc affect the numbers you get. My best advise to people when they ask me is to find a reputable company and stay with them. This is more for the sake of true comparison. Regardless of the #'s, if you have a new pack matched by the same people on the same machines and it has higher #'s, its obviously better than the one you already have. There are plenty of very well established companies (both down here in the states and in the great white north...hey Danny) and I feel that consistancy answers this question better than anything. If you find a new company that sounds good however... what does it hurt to try them. Maybe you'll find someone your happier with. I've found two things when it comes to batteries. The company I've been using has continually kept me happy, and that batteries won't buy you laps.
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