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Old 04-10-2013, 08:51 AM   #346
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Okay, I finally got it all done. Started truing the tires. They were 62mm out of the box. Just cutting down all four to 60mm was a chore. Felt like that cartoon where they made toothpicks by cutting down a log. So 53mm? Really? I also asked someone else and they told me I can go 56mm or 54mm. Seems like I would get enough tire dust out of each tire to glue back into a new tire.
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I've never understood why WGT tires are so large out of the bag
With 12th scale tires we only remove a few mm for club racing

WGT tires are nearly 10mm oversized

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With a decent truer it only takes a few mins to true them down
Not really a chore imo
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:09 AM   #348
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I've never understood why WGT tires are so large out of the bag
With 12th scale tires we only remove a few mm for club racing

WGT tires are nearly 10mm oversized

However
With a decent truer it only takes a few mins to true them down
Not really a chore imo
The truer is not the problem. Its just slow because I only have the cheap cutting blades that came with it. It will go faster if I pop for the Hudy carbide bit but its $50. Oh well, got time or got money, you gotta pay one way or another.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:22 AM   #349
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I cut BSRs to 53mm and Jacos to 52.3mm. Jaco rims are smaller so you end up with the same amount of foam on the rim.

The lilac compound wears well and will last quite a while. I run my BSRs until they get to 50mm and the Jacos to 49.3mm.

The key to good tire life is getting as much steering as possible. If you car pushes you will wear fronts 2x as fast as rears. I use 7/8 to 3/4 tire sauce in front with just about every other trick to get more steering and my car wears the fronts ~0.2mm more than the rears over a race day. The trick is to get the cars to steer/rotate AND be easy to drive.

I got an Cobra AC tire truer off ebay for $80 and a carbide burr with a 1/4" shank for $5 (ebay too). That combo will cut a WGT rear to size in one pass and the tires come out baby bottom smooth. I have used the Hudy truers with expensive carbide bits but the Cobra and Max-Mod truers are so much better (speed and surface finish).
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:17 PM   #350
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do you guys running WGT camber cut your front tires on the carpet? (Making both insides smaller) for better turning grip?
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I don't . I cut them flat and adjust camber so they wear flat.
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The truer is not the problem. Its just slow because I only have the cheap cutting blades that came with it. It will go faster if I pop for the Hudy carbide bit but its $50. Oh well, got time or got money, you gotta pay one way or another.
http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/modules.p...prodID=7719094

Try this, it absolutely puts the hudy bit to shame.
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http://www.teamcrc.com/crc/modules.p...prodID=7719094

Try this, it absolutely puts the hudy bit to shame.
That's what I use on my Hudy.
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I don't . I cut them flat and adjust camber so they wear flat.
I cut my tires flat too; but, adjusting caster to get even tire wear may not be fastest possible setup.
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I purchased a used car that had lilac rear and black front Jacos. How do the black fronts compare to the lilac fronts? I want to use these tires to just get the car somewhat setup before I put a new sets of lilac all the way around.
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I purchased a used car that had lilac rear and black front Jacos. How do the black fronts compare to the lilac fronts? I want to use these tires to just get the car somewhat setup before I put a new sets of lilac all the way around.
I would say blacks would be close to or have a little less grip than lilacs...especially in the last half of a run.
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Cool thanks. After I posted that I checked them with a durometer and saw they were fairly close in that aspect.
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Cool thanks. After I posted that I checked them with a durometer and saw they were fairly close in that aspect.
The difference is that Lilacs are high rubber and Blacks are low rubber. The lilacs start with more grip and will build grip over a run/race day and this helps WGT's steer harder. Blacks stay consistent and wear a little faster.

Blacks are great for 17.5 1/12 in high grip conditions. They keep these low powered cars free and efficient. This is about the only really good use for them....oval guys use them in 1/10 too.
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I've never understood why WGT tires are so large out of the bag
With 12th scale tires we only remove a few mm for club racing

WGT tires are nearly 10mm oversized

However
With a decent truer it only takes a few mins to true them down
Not really a chore imo
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Its so wasteful. If you wanted to make them useful for asphalt make them 2.25"-2.3" out of the box. That way we only have to skim them for carpet.

BSR and Jaco would get more tires out of a sheet of rubber too!
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Some of the Euro pro-10 guys run monster tires on asphalt.
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