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Old 10-18-2012, 10:54 PM   #226
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What happed with me just now is that the nut did not fully bottom out. The diff action started to lock up but the gear was still just spinning.
Not sure I fully understand "started to lock up but the gear was still just spinning". Does not seem possible.

Check the instructions again and make sure you are assembling it correctly.

- How is the coned washer installed? Concave side towards the red spacer.

- Red spacer installed correctly with the ridged side placed inward towards the flanged bearing in the right hub? Fairly difficult to see the ridged side; but, it's there.

- Two non-flanged bearings installed...one within the spur gear and the other within the inner side of the right hub?

- Using spur with 1/8" or 3/32" balls?

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I recognize this issue! The belleville washer has bottomed out against the 1/4" axle. This has happened because some other product was introduced. Either 3/32 ball vs 1/8, a different axle from stock, some other non-factory part has been introduced, or one of the famous Slapmaster thrust kits has the wrong spacer.

I am still wallowing over the rather cheesy loss the 'Hawks suffered tonight. I will follow up in the morning to see if this has been resolved.

Bill, we are going to miss you at TZGP, you know you will have another birthday next year so you can skip this one..... no one's keeping track at this point.

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If you used the 3/32 diff balls then the axle may be too long where it sticks out of the hub on the nut side...you may need to add a shim between the bearing and the spacer to make up for the difference in length.
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If you used the 3/32 diff balls then the axle may be too long where it sticks out of the hub on the nut side...you may need to add a shim between the bearing and the spacer to make up for the difference in length.
Don't make me come over there and... well.. Dec 8-15 I will be toes up at Maui doing.... research.
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I recognize this issue! The belleville washer has bottomed out against the 1/4" axle. This has happened because some other product was introduced. Either 3/32 ball vs 1/8, a different axle from stock, some other non-factory part has been introduced, or one of the famous Slapmaster thrust kits has the wrong spacer.

I am still wallowing over the rather cheesy loss the 'Hawks suffered tonight. I will follow up in the morning to see if this has been resolved.

Bill, we are going to miss you at TZGP, you know you will have another birthday next year so you can skip this one..... no one's keeping track at this point.

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Brian,

I'm keeping track...doing the countdown to retirement.

Too many things happening for me just before and just after the TZGP weekend.

Wish the TZGP would be scheduled towards the end of the carpet season as opposed to the beginning; but, I guess it is like the Daytona 500 or something! Or maybe Mark could just have two of them...LOL

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Old 10-19-2012, 01:01 AM   #231
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Don't make me come over there and... well.. Dec 8-15 I will be toes up at Maui doing.... research.
Maui's just a short 35-45min hop on a plane over to O'ahu Next time you should plan a race weekend on O'ahu!
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:29 AM   #232
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I resorted back to my kimbrough gear and 1/8th balls. I run aS100LT Serpent and I am using the stock axle assembly except for the lighweight diff rings. What was happening was, just sliding everything together, something was bottoming out before I even started the nut. The diff rings wouldn't quite touch the balls and gear. So it didn't even have a chance to tighten properly to begin with. Maybe the bearing recess in the serpent diff hub isn't made deep enough. That's the best way I can describe it. But I rebuilt it using ceramic bearings and silicone nitrade 1/8" balls and the CRC aerodiff spacer collar insted of the cone style spacer serpent provides. Along with the standard spring wasshers. It's working great and very smooth now, so I guess i'll be leaving it alone.
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Hi, can anyone please tell me what the differences between Sepents;

#410050 & 410050 Kits? I'm new to WGT class and the only differences I can tell from the details is one is a Link-Tube (LT) and the other is just the Link... I have a X10 Link atm and running 1s not niMh if that makes a difference.

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The S100L has an oil filled shock to control side to side pod movement, The S100LT has 2 damper tubes that you use heavy silicone grease in to do the same job. Most people prefer the tubes.
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Actually I run the s100LT. It has both. The new link tubes as well as the horizontal shock for lateral dampening. It's the "51" part number
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Actually I run the s100LT. It has both. The new link tubes as well as the horizontal shock for lateral dampening. It's the "51" part number
Thats great to know! Thank You! I really appreciate that!
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Just though the thread has been quiet too long. Hope everyone shows up Sunday at TQ. Having two full heats of WGT at round one was awesome! So I was realizing, I like the Jaco tires/wheels better than the BSR's. The wheels are smaller and I can cut the foam down smaller as they wear and get more life out of them to boot. Am I right or what?
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Too bad that at a lot of races, since the Jacos don't have a foam stripe to denote the spec compound, they aren't allowed. Since the durometer of the foam is so inconsistent between batches you can't reply on using a meter. It's too easy to cheat by using something other than the spec compound.
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I did know about the stripe on BSR's but did not know that fact about the Jacos. Good to know
Mine must be really inconsistant, I can never get past 4th place at my local track! lol
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Too bad that at a lot of races, since the Jacos don't have a foam stripe to denote the spec compound, they aren't allowed. Since the durometer of the foam is so inconsistent between batches you can't reply on using a meter. It's too easy to cheat by using something other than the spec compound.
For Jaco Lilac Spec tires the White Rim=The Purple Stripe on BSR Lilac Spec tires, i.e. Only Lilac foam is mounted on Jaco white rims.

I like BSR but I have run Jaco Spec tires. I get the same performance/life with either brand.

Jaco rims are .050" smaller than BSR rims. You have to cut Jaco's .050" smaller to get the same performance.

Example:

BSR's at 2.08" run the same as Jaco's at 2.03". At my track Jaco's will traction roll at 2.08" just like BSR's running at 2.13"
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