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Old 01-20-2015, 07:17 PM   #1366
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That is awesome Aaron, thanks a million mate. It looks great.

Sorry if this is too much to ask of you but would you mind posting your setup?

Or Mike any chance of getting your setup too using Aaron's setup sheet.

Thanks guys.
no problem! This is currently what i have right now

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Old 01-20-2015, 07:34 PM   #1367
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no problem! This is currently what i have right now

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Thanks Aaron. Do you only race on Carpet?
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:36 PM   #1368
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Thanks Aaron. Do you only race on Carpet?
no I race on asphalt as well its just carpet season right now so that is my current setup.

My setup for asphalt is basically the same just silver associated side springs and associated diff grease in the diff rather than anti-wear grease
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Old 01-20-2015, 07:43 PM   #1369
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Cool thanks Aaron.

yeah i was reading on the forums a few ppl mentioned running the AWG on the diff.

I tried it out on asphalt (we only race in asphalt) and it did not work at all. Way too thick. Then reverted back to Associated diff grease which was much better.
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Old 01-21-2015, 04:52 PM   #1370
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Couldn't resist anymore and got a F1R2 plus IFS. Build the car tonight and everything went well. Just one problem occured with the IFS. When I put the dampers in the lowest position the tops of the damper shaft are squeezed and prevent the whole suspension from working without binding
The shocktower holedistance for the lowest pair of holes is just too small. Anybody else noticed that or am I just unlucky with a faulty part?
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Couldn't resist anymore and got a F1R2 plus IFS. Build the car tonight and everything went well. Just one problem occured with the IFS. When I put the dampers in the lowest position the tops of the damper shaft are squeezed and prevent the whole suspension from working without binding
The shocktower holedistance for the lowest pair of holes is just too small. Anybody else noticed that or am I just unlucky with a faulty part?
Congrats on the new ride!
Yes that's right. The towers were made before the dampers and when the dampers were made the tops had to become more reinforced than planned so they became a little too fat for the lowest hole. Lowest hole is too soft anyway for the current springs. Middle and outer hole is recommended for the current dampers
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Old 01-22-2015, 12:46 AM   #1372
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Thanks Mike.
I tried to copy Aarons IFS setup and stumbled over it.
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Old 01-24-2015, 12:45 PM   #1373
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I had my first race with the F1R2 plus IFS today on carpet.
My feelings are mixed right now. The competition was hard: two Xrays, one VBC and two F104s fought for the honor. And if you love or hate Xray, you have to admit they do a great job for clubdrivers. The two guys with the Xray F1 just build the car like the manual recommends... and they were flying! The car carries a lot of corner speed and is very stable without oversteer (on carpet). the front is hard and the rear soft with thick oil in the link damper.

I started with Aarons setup. The car was a handful to drive, but equal fast with the Xrays (if I got it together). The IFS gives tons of steering! For asphalt this car will be a dream, but for medium to high grip carpet with ETS Ride tires the front is too soft. I started with the recommended soft spring and the car had problems getting back to the normal rideheight after the corner (getting back horizontal after leaning in the corner). This made it very hard to drive, because every little steering input would lead to diffing out or upsetting the car. I then changed to the hard spring and 300.000 diff oil for the IFS tubes. This made it a little better. Later I also put 300.000 into the rear tubes (copying the Xray), but it felt worse...
The last two years I just drove my F1 outdoor on dusty low to medium grip asphalt, so I am sure my setup decisions are faulty. I appreciate any help
Right now I feel like there should be a set of harder front springs for high grip carpet conditions. Looking forward to your suggestions.

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Old 01-26-2015, 11:02 AM   #1374
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I am running 10k in the side dampers and AWG in the IFS tubes. I did have 30k in it but the 10k just feels better. I am sure that the 300k is not letting the car settle back to level fast enough. I am running the tamiya TCS tires. They work really well and seem to last the whole season and more on our track.
We also have a guy running a xray at our club. He is an experienced driver already so his car was fast. But Not fast enough yet. I do expect the xray will be quite good. Only time will tell in that department.
I am really liking the IFS right now. Only 2 nights on it and it just keeps getting better and better.
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:57 AM   #1375
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Installed the IFS setup on my Street Jam F1. I used the stock servo mounts and shimmed the rear arm mount, on the servo mount, to be the same height as the supplied one, perfect.
Only other thing I did was use a 3mm nut loctite to the end of the droop screw, where they touch the chassis.

Car is now super dialed, feels the same as my IFS F1R2, but no football tweaking issues due to crash or hit

Love this front end, it is like a new car, so fast! Best upgrade ever for F1
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I am running 10k in the side dampers and AWG in the IFS tubes. I did have 30k in it but the 10k just feels better. I am sure that the 300k is not letting the car settle back to level fast enough. I am running the tamiya TCS tires. They work really well and seem to last the whole season and more on our track.
We also have a guy running a xray at our club. He is an experienced driver already so his car was fast. But Not fast enough yet. I do expect the xray will be quite good. Only time will tell in that department.
I am really liking the IFS right now. Only 2 nights on it and it just keeps getting better and better.
Good to hear!
Yes I agree, for the rear- go down to 10k and soften up the springs and damping and use firm silver spring with awg for the front. Makes the car a whole lot easier to drive

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Installed the IFS setup on my Street Jam F1. I used the stock servo mounts and shimmed the rear arm mount, on the servo mount, to be the same height as the supplied one, perfect.
Only other thing I did was use a 3mm nut loctite to the end of the droop screw, where they touch the chassis.

Car is now super dialed, feels the same as my IFS F1R2, but no football tweaking issues due to crash or hit

Love this front end, it is like a new car, so fast! Best upgrade ever for F1
Glad to hear Jay!
It's a new front end system so there may be a learning curve for some but it will only get better (more dominant?) as we continue to develop set up and improved parts
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OK, I have a dumb@$$ question (me being the dumb@$$) for you. What does mounting the rear shock backwards on the rear pod do to your handling?

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Hi Guys,

I have ordered an IRS set today am just getting the parts together ready for installation. I have a Savox SC-1251MG servo already with a cheap servo spacer. Can anyone tell me if the Tamiya 51000 servo spacer works with it or do you need a different brand of servo?

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Hi All,
Reports of good results and wins with the IFS already;
http://rcformula1.com.au/index.php/a...ound-1-results

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I have ordered an IRS set today am just getting the parts together ready for installation. I have a Savox SC-1251MG servo already with a cheap servo spacer. Can anyone tell me if the Tamiya 51000 servo spacer works with it or do you need a different brand of servo?

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Hi, Congrats on the upgrade! When you say servo spacer do you mean servo saver? The plastic one is very flimsy and may not last you the race day. Pick up the alloy version and use all of the metal springs to stiffen the servo saver or the car will just wander all over the place.

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OK, I have a dumb@$$ question (me being the dumb@$$) for you. What does mounting the rear shock backwards on the rear pod do to your handling?

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It's probably not even noticeable if it were switched but in theory shock body to the back creates more unsprung weight so could slow the pod down and not react to bumps and weight transfer (less grip). And if your shock develops any air it is like shaking a can of soda and wants to mix all the bubbles into the oil
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I have ordered an IRS set today am just getting the parts together ready for installation. I have a Savox SC-1251MG servo already with a cheap servo spacer. Can anyone tell me if the Tamiya 51000 servo spacer works with it or do you need a different brand of servo?

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I got exactly the same combination in my F1R2 with IRS. Works fine. Nevertheless I heard the guy here preferring the Xray T4 servosaver.
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