Originally Posted by JamesL_71

I don't have a huge preference either way... but I will ask this.... why fix something that doesn't seem to be broken?

The past three "big" carpet races(2011 IIC, 2012 Birds, 2012 Carpet Nats) have all had great turnouts in Stock 12th. At the IIC and Birds, it was the largest class next to Stock Sedan. At the Carpet Nats, Stock 12th was the largest class by some 15-20 entries.

Am I the only one who thinks 12th is actually doing pretty dang well?

Originally Posted by CypressMidWest

Every event I've ever been to had a hobbystore. In years past, I'd show up with 1 set of each viable compound, run to find out what worked, then purchase my tires at the shop for the rest of the event. This process helps you in two ways: You only end up spending money on what works for the event, and you saved space in your luggage because you didn't drag all the tires you couldn't use with you to begin with.......

Bust out the 12th scale and race it at major events.

Originally Posted by chris moore

A couple of thoughts on your statements; to be honest one of the problems with this hobby is that everyone does want it spoon fed. No boost, spec tires, only this or that esc, blah, blah, blah. I understand that alot of this comes from the change in todays society, nobody wants to have to think anymore but come on this is racing still right?? You made the statement "I think it would put some aspect of "race management" back into 1/12th racing" earlier in the thread, how in the world does a spec tire add an aspect of race management?? I just dont see how taking away a tunning option is going to enhance race management, please enlighten me. If you need a level playing field run 17.5 blinky, you can expect that purple or black fronts and yelow or orange/gray-lows will work. Its kind of gotten already spec'ed in so your travel woes are solved.

Now compairing WGT and 1/12 is apples and oranges, other than both are pancars thats all thay share. WGT has a longer/wider wheelbase, much bigger tires for a much bigger contact area, and not much more weight. There is just no direct relation between WGT and 1/12th so lets just leave that out of the disscusson. In case you haven't guessed I'm against a spec tire for 1/12th

So to recap you can run blinky and bring a max of four compounds, now whats keeping you out of running 1/12?

Originally Posted by hairy

Ah...the dumbing down of America has found roots in R/C racing.
We need to stop handing out trophies at race events and just give everybody a ribbon that signs up, that way we won't have to worry about the fast guys cheating and the slow guys will feel better about themselves. That will also cure the need for rules, spec tires, spec ec's, the whole lot.
This will make it affordable for all to join in.

I am not kidding I am very seriuos. We are not promoting work, desire, thinking, ingenuity, we are just trying to make everbody equal in all respects.

Originally Posted by JamesL_71

I don't have a huge preference either way... but I will ask this.... why fix something that doesn't seem to be broken?

The past three "big" carpet races(2011 IIC, 2012 Birds, 2012 Carpet Nats) have all had great turnouts in Stock 12th. At the IIC and Birds, it was the largest class next to Stock Sedan. At the Carpet Nats, Stock 12th was the largest class by some 15-20 entries.

Am I the only one who thinks 12th is actually doing pretty dang well?

Originally Posted by wingracer

No, I think it's doing great. Still, I think improvements could be made. Whether or not my ideas actually would be improvements or not is hard to say and certainly up for debate.