Xray T3 2012
#1039
Tech Elite
iTrader: (88)
So far I am liking the car, but it still has a long way to go setup wise. Box stock setup is good for hot lap, but being consistent with it is hard. I wanted to baseline my setup in the Xray setup database before posting my setup progression. I spent some serious time at the track recently and am making big strides in the right direction.
I am pretty much anti-whatever I am not running at the time ...I have owned and raced a lot of touring cars (afraid to admit how many) in my time so I have experience with almost all of them in one way or another. I can honestly run whatever I want, and had an itch for something different. The Xray 2012 got a lot right over the previous cars and drew me into trying it out. I am not sure it is better then the 417 but it is different. I am still enjoying the car and am fine tuning the setup for my liking. Time will tell...
#1040
Tech Elite
iTrader: (6)
Are you cyber-stalking me...?
So far I am liking the car, but it still has a long way to go setup wise. Box stock setup is good for hot lap, but being consistent with it is hard. I wanted to baseline my setup in the Xray setup database before posting my setup progression. I spent some serious time at the track recently and am making big strides in the right direction.
I am pretty much anti-whatever I am not running at the time ...I have owned and raced a lot of touring cars (afraid to admit how many) in my time so I have experience with almost all of them in one way or another. I can honestly run whatever I want, and had an itch for something different. The Xray 2012 got a lot right over the previous cars and drew me into trying it out. I am not sure it is better then the 417 but it is different. I am still enjoying the car and am fine tuning the setup for my liking. Time will tell...
So far I am liking the car, but it still has a long way to go setup wise. Box stock setup is good for hot lap, but being consistent with it is hard. I wanted to baseline my setup in the Xray setup database before posting my setup progression. I spent some serious time at the track recently and am making big strides in the right direction.
I am pretty much anti-whatever I am not running at the time ...I have owned and raced a lot of touring cars (afraid to admit how many) in my time so I have experience with almost all of them in one way or another. I can honestly run whatever I want, and had an itch for something different. The Xray 2012 got a lot right over the previous cars and drew me into trying it out. I am not sure it is better then the 417 but it is different. I am still enjoying the car and am fine tuning the setup for my liking. Time will tell...
#1041
Team EAM
iTrader: (79)
Are you cyber-stalking me...?
So far I am liking the car, but it still has a long way to go setup wise. Box stock setup is good for hot lap, but being consistent with it is hard. I wanted to baseline my setup in the Xray setup database before posting my setup progression. I spent some serious time at the track recently and am making big strides in the right direction.
I am pretty much anti-whatever I am not running at the time ...I have owned and raced a lot of touring cars (afraid to admit how many) in my time so I have experience with almost all of them in one way or another. I can honestly run whatever I want, and had an itch for something different. The Xray 2012 got a lot right over the previous cars and drew me into trying it out. I am not sure it is better then the 417 but it is different. I am still enjoying the car and am fine tuning the setup for my liking. Time will tell...
So far I am liking the car, but it still has a long way to go setup wise. Box stock setup is good for hot lap, but being consistent with it is hard. I wanted to baseline my setup in the Xray setup database before posting my setup progression. I spent some serious time at the track recently and am making big strides in the right direction.
I am pretty much anti-whatever I am not running at the time ...I have owned and raced a lot of touring cars (afraid to admit how many) in my time so I have experience with almost all of them in one way or another. I can honestly run whatever I want, and had an itch for something different. The Xray 2012 got a lot right over the previous cars and drew me into trying it out. I am not sure it is better then the 417 but it is different. I am still enjoying the car and am fine tuning the setup for my liking. Time will tell...
EA
#1043
My car was in the Hudy setup bench when suddenly my car blipped the throttle. The front jump in the air and I immediately removed the pinion. While I was busy setting the camber and the motor blipped once in a while. Never had this before :/ Anyway, I recalibrated my M11x and I think/hope the problem is gone.
I noticed one of my 52mm steel shafts is twisted and bend I actually didn't notice it while racing. It vibrates a little on the stand, but the vibration from not having ECS shafts is 100x worse.
I'm seriously doubting to buy xray ECS shafts, but the price is quite high and I wonder if they break faster then the normal shafts. I am not a pro driver and I only drive onroad (touring car) for 1.5 months. I've done a few races and always start in the A main and usually end in the top 5 in 17.5T boosted.
I've read that some people were having problems with the pins, but there if I am right, there was running change with the ECS shafts. Is this true?
I noticed one of my 52mm steel shafts is twisted and bend I actually didn't notice it while racing. It vibrates a little on the stand, but the vibration from not having ECS shafts is 100x worse.
I'm seriously doubting to buy xray ECS shafts, but the price is quite high and I wonder if they break faster then the normal shafts. I am not a pro driver and I only drive onroad (touring car) for 1.5 months. I've done a few races and always start in the A main and usually end in the top 5 in 17.5T boosted.
I've read that some people were having problems with the pins, but there if I am right, there was running change with the ECS shafts. Is this true?
#1046
Tech Elite
iTrader: (88)
Yeah I have spent a lot of time with the stock setup and find the car on the nose at our track with the Solaris (M) tires. As the grip comes up the car gets very aggressive and as a result the car feels loose mid corner. The biggest change that I have made with great results is the low roll center mounts in rear with .15mm under the aluminum mounts. The car becomes so much more well behaved especially in the high speed sections. I have also found that the ECSs seem to take away some steering...
I have also been running with the LTC-R and I think that is a mistake. I have a couple of speed 6's on the way which seems to be a good compromise and will help stick the car a little better.
I have been impressed with the way the car responds to setup changes. I seem to feel every change I do to the car. I think I tried about 30 different changes yesterday and was able to feel the subtle differences in each one. I had one guy at the track giggling that a .15mm shim under the blocks would even make a difference and I will tell you that I could feel it. Kind of a nice feature of the car.
I look forward to hearing about what changes the team guys are running to help improve the base setup. I think the kit setup is much better then most, but it is not for me right now.
#1047
Tech Addict
Built my 2012 shocks, all 4 leaked not even run yet. Ok, rebuilt again and sitting in my room, all 4 leaked again. Took out the 0-ring and the shaft and found out the o ring is too big for the shaft. It doesn't seal tight enough. Way too lose. Shaft is 3.18mm and the 0-ring seems like 3.2mm inside. What to know what is the solution? I already using another new o-ring.
#1048
Built my 2012 shocks, all 4 leaked not even run yet. Ok, rebuilt again and sitting in my room, all 4 leaked again. Took out the 0-ring and the shaft and found out the o ring is too big for the shaft. It doesn't seal tight enough. Way too lose. Shaft is 3.18mm and the 0-ring seems like 3.2mm inside. What to know what is the solution? I already using another new o-ring.
#1049
EA-
Yeah I have spent a lot of time with the stock setup and find the car on the nose at our track with the Solaris (M) tires. As the grip comes up the car gets very aggressive and as a result the car feels loose mid corner. The biggest change that I have made with great results is the low roll center mounts in rear with .15mm under the aluminum mounts. The car becomes so much more well behaved especially in the high speed sections. I have also found that the ECSs seem to take away some steering...
I have also been running with the LTC-R and I think that is a mistake. I have a couple of speed 6's on the way which seems to be a good compromise and will help stick the car a little better.
I have been impressed with the way the car responds to setup changes. I seem to feel every change I do to the car. I think I tried about 30 different changes yesterday and was able to feel the subtle differences in each one. I had one guy at the track giggling that a .15mm shim under the blocks would even make a difference and I will tell you that I could feel it. Kind of a nice feature of the car.
I look forward to hearing about what changes the team guys are running to help improve the base setup. I think the kit setup is much better then most, but it is not for me right now.
Yeah I have spent a lot of time with the stock setup and find the car on the nose at our track with the Solaris (M) tires. As the grip comes up the car gets very aggressive and as a result the car feels loose mid corner. The biggest change that I have made with great results is the low roll center mounts in rear with .15mm under the aluminum mounts. The car becomes so much more well behaved especially in the high speed sections. I have also found that the ECSs seem to take away some steering...
I have also been running with the LTC-R and I think that is a mistake. I have a couple of speed 6's on the way which seems to be a good compromise and will help stick the car a little better.
I have been impressed with the way the car responds to setup changes. I seem to feel every change I do to the car. I think I tried about 30 different changes yesterday and was able to feel the subtle differences in each one. I had one guy at the track giggling that a .15mm shim under the blocks would even make a difference and I will tell you that I could feel it. Kind of a nice feature of the car.
I look forward to hearing about what changes the team guys are running to help improve the base setup. I think the kit setup is much better then most, but it is not for me right now.
The body makes a big difference to what I have experienced so far. Bought a Protoform R9-R because I was tolded it gives good steering. But it is undrivable on tight fast tracks with chicanes. Run the LTC-R which is smoother. But the Mazda is even more neutral and I dont have any problems with too less steering.
I am still running the basic carpet setup till now except I changd to 2000 oil in the gear diff and use a more inner hole in the shock towers. Did you try to shim the shocks in front? Calms down the car a lot.
I could imagine that removing the inner shim on the rear upper linkage might also help.
#1050
Built my 2012 shocks, all 4 leaked not even run yet. Ok, rebuilt again and sitting in my room, all 4 leaked again. Took out the 0-ring and the shaft and found out the o ring is too big for the shaft. It doesn't seal tight enough. Way too lose. Shaft is 3.18mm and the 0-ring seems like 3.2mm inside. What to know what is the solution? I already using another new o-ring.
As said the oring should "grow" a little when in contact with the silicon oil.