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Old 01-25-2012, 09:00 AM   #1321
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Has anyone driven both the t3 2012 and the serpent s411 le? I need a unbiasd comparison. I am down to those 2 as I shop for a new car to replace my xray t2 I have been racing for a couple years.
If you're interested, right now I'm running the S411 and the T3/2012 back to back. I've found setups that I like for both cars, lap times are very similar although each car gets it done differently.

For me, the S411 has a very planted feel with tons of steering, likes to be driven hard into and out of corners. The T3/2012 has more method in the drive, feels less raw and is more forgiving. Right now my T3 is 1 - 2 tenths faster for me on average. Quality is similar with a slight edge to Xray.

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All info helps. How is the ease of setup and durability factors in comparison to one another?
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:20 AM   #1323
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All info helps. How is the ease of setup and durability factors in comparison to one another?
Both cars are very durable and easy to setup, the Xray "holds" it's settings (droop, camber, toe, ect.) a little better than the Serpent run after run. The steering mechanism is better on the Xray out of the box.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:55 AM   #1324
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Great info.
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Would I notice anything in handling going from 50's to 52's?
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:52 PM   #1326
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Hey guys newbie question here ....whats the difference when u adjust the rear toe-in at the legs with the shims or if u buy the rear aluminum uprites with the integrated toe in?
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what cassis protector are you guys running outdoors? (palstic protective film)
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Hey guys newbie question here ....whats the difference when u adjust the rear toe-in at the legs with the shims or if u buy the rear aluminum uprites with the integrated toe in?
If you run a lot of rear toe like 4 degrees or so and and just keep adding spacers inboard it puts the hinge pin at a great angle and could bind. I run the 1 degree rear hubs most of the time as I race on low traction.
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what brand of pinion and spur are you guys using? been a while sense i ran 64p gears, and i also understand the 2012 uses a narrow/offset gear?

quiet = better in my book
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what brand of pinion and spur are you guys using? been a while sense i ran 64p gears, and i also understand the 2012 uses a narrow/offset gear?

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PRS pinions, and either Xray or the Xray specific RW spurs. Yes, the '12 prefers the offset spurs.
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Wondering if anyone has experienced this and fixed it.
I've picked up a tweak at the rear somewhere where I have 2 dEgrees toe in on left and 3 degree on the right. The chassis is brand new as I was using the zeppin chassis when I first picked up the tweak. ThE blocks arms etc are all straight with all plastics replaced just in case.
Any ideas where to look as at the moment I've had to add shims to left side to correct.
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Can anyone show / send me a link for the kit stop sheet for the 12? I have lost it

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Can anyone show / send me a link for the kit stop sheet for the 12? I have lost it

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I assume you mean the blank setup sheet.

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/sho...p?file_id=8124
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Wondering if anyone has experienced this and fixed it.
I've picked up a tweak at the rear somewhere where I have 2 dEgrees toe in on left and 3 degree on the right. The chassis is brand new as I was using the zeppin chassis when I first picked up the tweak. ThE blocks arms etc are all straight with all plastics replaced just in case.
Any ideas where to look as at the moment I've had to add shims to left side to correct.
I have this problem sometimes I normally just losen the rear blocks abit and there's normally alittle bit of play in it. So I normally just hold to the side with more toe and tighten it and it's fixed you normally get 2.5degree each side with kit setup so it would only need alittle moving.
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