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Old 03-14-2013, 04:29 PM   #4066
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Thanks, the LHS doesn't have those parts in stock either, but they did say that they have a good selection of steel and brass tubing in stock that people use for modelling projects and a temporary substitute should be doable.
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:08 PM   #4067
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What are some tips to get more rear side bite and rear traction on pavement. Out track kind of gets dusty from the constant construction of the near by off road track but it gets sprayed on race day. This is 17.5 blinky class. I am running 3mm rear toe, 1.75rear camber, I keep playing with shock position and dont know what to do. I have Tamiya shocks 3.0springs in front w/45wt, 2.6springs in rear w/35wt . The hinge blocks have little hole on bottom( dont know what those do)? LTCR light weight body. Any help would be nice! thx
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Try laying the shocks down one hole at a time until you find enough traction.

In general, in the rear, Down = more side traction, Up = Tighter steering

If that doesn't help, you can go softer on the oil and shocks.
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Try laying the shocks down one hole at a time until you find enough traction.

In general, in the rear, Down = more side traction, Up = Tighter steering

If that doesn't help, you can go softer on the oil and shocks.
When you say (softer) oil do you mean lighter like 30wt?
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Yes that is what he means. I'm not sure what the tamiya shocks/spring would work like, but looking at Paul LeMieux's setup from the Asphalt nats, he was running Xray 2.4/500cst up front and 2.2/400 in the rear. You can try setting your car up like this http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...&setup=t3_2012 and see how it works for you as a baseline and change droop to fit the 17.5.
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Yes that is what he means. I'm not sure what the tamiya shocks/spring would work like, but looking at Paul LeMieux's setup from the Asphalt nats, he was running Xray 2.4/500cst up front and 2.2/400 in the rear. You can try setting your car up like this http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...&setup=t3_2012 and see how it works for you as a baseline and change droop to fit the 17.5.
Thanks! Tamiya shocks are really really smooth. The springs are Xray. I will try to soften it up and see what happens. What does changing the plastic arm blocks do with the little dots? I believe there roll center blocks.

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Thanks! Tamiya shocks are really really smooth. The springs are Xray. I will try to soften it up and see what happens. What does changing the plastic arm blocks do with the little dots? I believe there roll center blocks.
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Generally a higher roll center (dot) provides less traction at that end of the car. I would try mid roll centers in the rear, -.75mm block will make that end feel a bit lazy and definitely give you a pushy feeling at NorCal. Stop by this weekend, we can talk in person.

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Generally a higher the roll center (dot) provides less traction at that end of the car. I would try mid roll centers in the rear, -.75mm block will make that end feel a bit lazy and definitely give you a pushy feeling at NorCal. Stop by this weekend, we can talk in person.

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Cool Ethan, Just looking to see what changes I can make. My current setup works great on a very clean and freshly prepped track. After a few days of near by offroad racing and leaf blowing dirt around its over.
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Thanks! Tamiya shocks are really really smooth. The springs are Xray. I will try to soften it up and see what happens. What does changing the plastic arm blocks do with the little dots? I believe there roll center blocks.
Josh I have Tamiya TRF shocks shocks on my T2 Xray with rsd pistons they were a upgrade the car handles great I ran it in modified Saturday.
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Josh I have Tamiya TRF shocks shocks on my T2 Xray with rsd pistons they were a upgrade the car handles great I ran it in modified Saturday.
Mod! Wow, I love my tamiya shocks too. I always get bubbles in Xray shocks every time! lol I think I am ready to take it to the next level and try new set ups. We will see!
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Yes that is what he means. I'm not sure what the tamiya shocks/spring would work like, but looking at Paul LeMieux's setup from the Asphalt nats, he was running Xray 2.4/500cst up front and 2.2/400 in the rear. You can try setting your car up like this http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...&setup=t3_2012 and see how it works for you as a baseline and change droop to fit the 17.5.
I just set my car up like this. It seems like an odd set up but im open for new things to learn. I went with 2.8 springs up front and 2,4 in rear w/35wt oil all around. Thats the softest I have. Also went with only 3degree toe out in front. 5degrees seems much for me. Sunday will be interesting!
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I just set my car up like this. It seems like an odd set up but im open for new things to learn. I went with 2.8 springs up front and 2,4 in rear w/35wt oil all around. Thats the softest I have. Also went with only 3degree toe out in front. 5degrees seems much for me. Sunday will be interesting!
If I remember correctly Paul's car was mostly a T4 at that race. 2.8/2.4 will probably work but might be a bit lazy. That said, Paul's setup has .5 degrees toe out in front, not 5 degrees.

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If I remember correctly Paul's car was mostly a T4 at that race. 2.8/2.4 will probably work but might be a bit lazy. That said, Paul's setup has .5 degrees toe out in front, not 5 degrees.

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You almost couldnt tell which was the front of the car when I did that!
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