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Old 06-03-2012, 04:44 PM   #2716
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This is how close I can get with the stock link as short as possible. looks like I will need to find a shorter turnbuckle.
Cut it with a dremel or use the ones for the camber link if you have spares.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:14 PM   #2717
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Put an associated link on there which is now really bothering me. Ha ha.
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Not sure where you race as you don't have a location listed. Windy day here in the Midwest yesterday. We were all having the same trouble and concluded it was just the wind doing it. We all were having to trim out radios to go straight on the straightaway.

Could be tweak or some other kind of imbalance. What kind of servo? Are you running a cap on your receiver? Maybe the servo is losing power (strength) at full throttle?
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Might be your droop, place your car on a flat surface and lift the center of the rear end and look to see if your wheels lift off the surface the same time. Are you using a servo saver? Try swapping that for a servo horn see if that fixes the problem.
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thanks for help .. i will looking for those advise above .. thank again
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This is how close I can get with the stock link as short as possible. looks like I will need to find a shorter turnbuckle.


I must have had a short one in my bin, I don't remember having to cut one but I didn't use the stock one if that helps. Just cut it at both ends and you will be fine.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:05 AM   #2720
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even with spektrum dx3r endpoints on 150 max left and right steering arms are still a few mm away from hubs any way of getting more steering ? on my t3 2010 had to turn down endpoints has steering was touching front hubs
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:08 AM   #2721
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This is how close I can get with the stock link as short as possible. looks like I will need to find a shorter turnbuckle.



You need to get 32 mm turnbuckle, but remember not alu one just a steel. My alu was bent after 2 races. I dont know why Xray gives too long turnbuckle???
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:29 AM   #2722
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even with spektrum dx3r endpoints on 150 max left and right steering arms are still a few mm away from hubs any way of getting more steering ? on my t3 2010 had to turn down endpoints has steering was touching front hubs
You have several possibilities :

1 : you use a hole on the servo-saver that is higher (so more distance between the center of the servo-saver and the used hole. Be sure to set your servo-saver with the hole at the vertical of the center when your servo is on his neutral point.


2 : you add some shims here, but you change the ackermann


3 : you make an hole in the main steering platic part that is nearer the center of rotation. On this piture, this hole is at the same distance that what was set on the "L" plastic part of the T3 '11 :


If you use this hole (and you reverse both right and left plastic parts so keeping the same length of turnbuckle), you get more steering with the same servo travel.

Hope it can help you (even if it's strange that you can't get enough steering with the TX at full end point)

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Old 06-04-2012, 03:55 AM   #2723
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even with spektrum dx3r endpoints on 150 max left and right steering arms are still a few mm away from hubs any way of getting more steering ? on my t3 2010 had to turn down endpoints has steering was touching front hubs
You sure your dual rate isn't turned down. Same radio here. No issues.
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:08 AM   #2724
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Can someone explain the shim behind the shock setup?

- what does it do?
- which box on the setup sheet indicates it?
- I assume the shims should be the same both at the top and bottom of the shocks?

I built mine with no shims. Seemed to work.
Anyone?
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thanks guys for info i forgot i turned down dual rate to 60 % put back to 70% all fine now what is best steering rate of the dx3r for the xray t3 2012 to race indoor on carpet ?
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:47 AM   #2726
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thanks guys for info i forgot i turned down dual rate to 60 % put back to 70% all fine now what is best steering rate of the dx3r for the xray t3 2012 to race indoor on carpet ?
Well it's relative based on your end point adjustments and what the dual rate was at when you set it up. You may want to put your dual rate back to 100 and then reset your endpoints. From there I like to keep mine at around 90 percent for the track I race at.
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Can someone explain the shim behind the shock setup?

- what does it do?
- which box on the setup sheet indicates it?
- I assume the shims should be the same both at the top and bottom of the shocks?

I built mine with no shims. Seemed to work.

- what does it do?
Changes the resistance of the shock, kinda like having more holes in the tower with lesser increments.

- which box on the setup sheet indicates it?
The one labeled "Shim under shock"

- I assume the shims should be the same both at the top and bottom of the shocks?

No, usually people will shim the top first, I have seen some setups where people shimmed the entire shock away from the arm.

The whole idea seems like it shouldn't make a "noticable" change, but oddly it does, usually its used to mellow out the car.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:58 AM   #2728
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- what does it do?
Changes the resistance of the shock, kinda like having more holes in the tower with lesser increments.

- which box on the setup sheet indicates it?
The one labeled "Shim under shock"

- I assume the shims should be the same both at the top and bottom of the shocks?

No, usually people will shim the top first, I have seen some setups where people shimmed the entire shock away from the arm.

The whole idea seems like it shouldn't make a "noticable" change, but oddly it does, usually its used to mellow out the car.
THANK YOU!!

So what is a good starting setting top/bottom front and rear?
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So what is a good starting setting top/bottom front and rear?
2mm up top with 0 on the bottom.
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I had a similar question over in the '11 thread. What I was told is that 90 degrees with the arm and chasis isn't what you are looking for. Rather, you want 90 degrees between the link and the arm. The arc the arm travels is what you need to be concerned with.
The kit manual says 90* to the chassis, which is what I am running, but I had to use a LOT of subtrim to get my servo saver vertical, and my EPA's left and right are about 20% different.
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