R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-16-2012, 02:12 AM   #2491
Tech Elite
 
defcone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,338
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Has anyone actually compared laptimes between ecs's and normal ones?
defcone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 02:20 AM   #2492
Tech Elite
 
R3VoLuTiOn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 2,315
Trader Rating: 26 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by defcone View Post
Has anyone actually compared laptimes between ecs's and normal ones?
yes, and it was a difference. small, but noteworthy.
__________________
John Tsang 🏁 VBC Racing 🚗 ORCA RC 🚗 GripworksRC 🚗 MotivRC 🚗 GravityRC 🚗 RC America

http://www.facebook.com/VancouverRRR 🏁 http://www.facebook.com/OvergearedRacing
R3VoLuTiOn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 03:56 AM   #2493
Tech Fanatic
 
Cristian Silva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 950
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by R3VoLuTiOn View Post
yes, and it was a difference. small, but noteworthy.
I actually I tried back to back runs last night and found virtually no difference in lap times, though I did pull them off my old 009 which did have a little play in them
__________________
Team Xray Australia - HEI International ~ www.hobbyexpress.com.au - www.smaracing.org
Cristian Silva is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 04:55 AM   #2494
Tech Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 5,360
Trader Rating: 38 (100%+)
Default

Someone on the TC6 thread setup two identical cars except for ECS vs CVA. He noted no differences in laptimes or handling.
or8ital is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 05:48 AM   #2495
Tech Elite
 
Skiddins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Windsor, UK
Posts: 4,655
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by or8ital View Post
Someone on the TC6 thread setup two identical cars except for ECS vs CVA. He noted no differences in laptimes or handling.
But was this testing on a smaller tight carpet track more common in the US or a fast flowing outdoor asphalt track, more common in Europe?

I ask as the smaller the track, the lower the speeds, and therefor there is less likely to be any noticable difference due to reduced vibration.

We have also had a few drivers who have run ECS or Litmodz style driveshafts (on various cars) who have found that they require less steering lock for the same corners when using the non-standard parts.

Skiddins
__________________
Xray T4'17, T4'14 (Wet Car)
Xray X12 2017
Xray X1'16
wlrc.co.uk (West London Racing Centre)
RCDisco.co.uk
Skiddins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 05:55 AM   #2496
Tech Champion
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 5,360
Trader Rating: 38 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiddins View Post
But was this testing on a smaller tight carpet track more common in the US or a fast flowing outdoor asphalt track, more common in Europe?

I ask as the smaller the track, the lower the speeds, and therefor there is less likely to be any noticable difference due to reduced vibration.

We have also had a few drivers who have run ECS or Litmodz style driveshafts (on various cars) who have found that they require less steering lock for the same corners when using the non-standard parts.

Skiddins
Leisure which is a very large asphalt track.

Here is the post: Team Associated TC6 Thread
or8ital is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 01:38 PM   #2497
Tech Elite
 
haywood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,781
Trader Rating: 48 (100%+)
Default Ecs advantage

At a meet over the winter indoor on ozite I was running the stock bones during practice and first couple qualifiers and switched to my 50mm ecs shafts and the car for me cornered much better and the lap times also improved.
__________________
Hobbywing / Team Scream / Progressive Rc / Ko Propo / MotivRc / Dri-Fit Mafia /
haywood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 02:15 PM   #2498
Tech Champion
 
hanulec's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: @ the post office
Posts: 8,418
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

ECS are an advantage for every TC class (potential exception modified). It kind of like having "turbo" when everyone us running blinky.. but the speed is in the corners, not the straight.

In mod you can get away with (near) zero corner speed by point-n-shooting from corner to come net.
__________________
FJ / ROAR #2-122945 / MaxRotation FPV Drone Racing / Shop@ Awesomatix USA / Wild Turbo Fan / Mon-Tech Racing / RocheRC USA / Side Piece /
LRP / John's BSR Tires / TeamEAM / TQ Wire / R1 / Team Scream / PCR / MIX
RacerLog wiki Awesomatix A700 / 2wd offroad 4 life
hanulec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 09:30 PM   #2499
Tech Fanatic
 
stro3579's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chicago/Alabama
Posts: 759
Trader Rating: 20 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by theatriks View Post
Ok thanks hopefully nexus racing or a main has them in stock!
I haven't found anyone with any of these parts yet.
stro3579 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 04:30 AM   #2500
Tech Elite
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: VA Beach
Posts: 3,464
Trader Rating: 55 (100%+)
Default

Rcmarket has them. I ordered them Monday and tracking shows expected delivery on Friday. I did purchase the speed mail option
Jamison R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 07:14 AM   #2501
Tech Master
 
theatriks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,619
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Im sure the north american companies will get those parts soon enough....lol i dont think those specific parts and gonna drop tons of time of your lap times any ways lol
theatriks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 11:02 AM   #2502
Tech Fanatic
 
roger999's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 841
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Anyone was trying to run without 2 screws from upper deck (beside spur gear) to get more grip on the back and more flex?
__________________
facebook.com/rogergrafix
roger999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 11:56 AM   #2503
Tech Regular
 
rdlkgliders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: So. Cal High Desert Hobbies
Posts: 458
Trader Rating: 21 (96%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by roger999 View Post
Anyone was trying to run without 2 screws from upper deck (beside spur gear) to get more grip on the back and more flex?
I am running only the 2 front most screws on the front and the 2 rearmost screws on the rear of the top deck without problems (yet). I am not sure if this poses a problem with the pinion and spur mesh moving and creating a damaged spur gear do to excessive flex. we will see


I am in the process of putting a new setup on the car. The box asphalt setup yielded a very loose car and so I am trying something new. I noticed while on the setup board I too have a rear toe discrepancy appx .50-.75 from one side to the other. I took apart the rear end and measured all pieces involved and after finding the parts to be within acceptable tolerance (less than .01) I reassembled leaving the screws loose and carefully working my way around and tightening. When done I had reduced the toe difference to less than .25mm.
If I were to want an even more accurate rear toe what is the solution. I am running 1 piece rear and 2 piece front blocks, I do not want to switch to a 1 piece front block at the price of losing grip. do you add spacers or sand the roll center block?
__________________
Serpent, KO Propo, Viper, Savox, ProTek
Team Waldorf Racing

Your not lapping me, you just caught up to me again!!!
rdlkgliders is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 12:25 PM   #2504
Tech Elite
 
Skiddins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Windsor, UK
Posts: 4,655
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlkgliders View Post
I am running only the 2 front most screws on the front and the 2 rearmost screws on the rear of the top deck without problems (yet). I am not sure if this poses a problem with the pinion and spur mesh moving and creating a damaged spur gear do to excessive flex. we will see


I am in the process of putting a new setup on the car. The box asphalt setup yielded a very loose car and so I am trying something new. I noticed while on the setup board I too have a rear toe discrepancy appx .50-.75 from one side to the other. I took apart the rear end and measured all pieces involved and after finding the parts to be within acceptable tolerance (less than .01) I reassembled leaving the screws loose and carefully working my way around and tightening. When done I had reduced the toe difference to less than .25mm.
If I were to want an even more accurate rear toe what is the solution. I am running 1 piece rear and 2 piece front blocks, I do not want to switch to a 1 piece front block at the price of losing grip. do you add spacers or sand the roll center block?
I went through my various shims etc until I found the ones required to do exactly what I want.
__________________
Xray T4'17, T4'14 (Wet Car)
Xray X12 2017
Xray X1'16
wlrc.co.uk (West London Racing Centre)
RCDisco.co.uk
Skiddins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 01:17 PM   #2505
Tech Regular
 
rdlkgliders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: So. Cal High Desert Hobbies
Posts: 458
Trader Rating: 21 (96%+)
Default

Thx,
__________________
Serpent, KO Propo, Viper, Savox, ProTek
Team Waldorf Racing

Your not lapping me, you just caught up to me again!!!

Last edited by rdlkgliders; 05-17-2012 at 02:27 PM.
rdlkgliders is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Xray T3 2011 entitymugenmtx Electric On-Road 4150 05-19-2014 12:53 PM
Xray T3 2011 New in Box olhipster1 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 19 08-04-2011 05:27 AM
XRAY T3 2012 bila nk keluar? bravolous Malaysian R/C Racers 8 06-16-2011 11:58 PM
Xray T3 nitro rat Australia For Sale/Trade 22 09-19-2010 03:11 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 06:03 PM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net