New On-Point OP12C
#61
Tech Adept
Thinking about the op 12.1c
I currently have an associated r5.1. I am pondering on the following:
1. Associated 5.1 in line conversion;
2. CEFX griffin conversion;
3. On Point c12.1
Seeing as I am on the onpoint thread, I assume that most/any responses will favour the on-point.
However, has anyone here done a comparison, or had any one of the other 2 chassis?
how do the cars feel against one another?
1. Associated 5.1 in line conversion;
2. CEFX griffin conversion;
3. On Point c12.1
Seeing as I am on the onpoint thread, I assume that most/any responses will favour the on-point.
However, has anyone here done a comparison, or had any one of the other 2 chassis?
how do the cars feel against one another?
#62
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I currently have an associated r5.1. I am pondering on the following:
1. Associated 5.1 in line conversion;
2. CEFX griffin conversion;
3. On Point c12.1
Seeing as I am on the onpoint thread, I assume that most/any responses will favour the on-point.
However, has anyone here done a comparison, or had any one of the other 2 chassis?
how do the cars feel against one another?
1. Associated 5.1 in line conversion;
2. CEFX griffin conversion;
3. On Point c12.1
Seeing as I am on the onpoint thread, I assume that most/any responses will favour the on-point.
However, has anyone here done a comparison, or had any one of the other 2 chassis?
how do the cars feel against one another?
A big disadvantage of the R5.1 (inline) is that the motor pod tweaks like hell. If you just look at it, it's already tweakt. Now we are both driving the on-point and this is awesome. The pod almost doesn't tweak, and if it tweaks it doesn't tweak that much as the associated.
Also different is the battery position. I can position the battery in the On-point more forward and backward, and with the inline version you can online place it in one place.
I've tested the Associated with the on-point back to back, And i'm faster, I think due to the higher corner speed, with the On-Point with 3 tents at the fast lap.
SO for me I'm really happy to drive the on-point right now. For the CEFX I don't know. I haven't used it.
Regards Robert
#63
Robert, how do you intially set up the side springs on your On Point?
#64
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would it be reasonable to convert a 5.1 to this chassis adding only damper tubes? running the 5.1 onpoint chassis and its fast, but i have had a few aluminum parts tweak. my motor plate is f-d.
without buying a 5.2, what would it cost to get this and build it up from a complete 5.1?
without buying a 5.2, what would it cost to get this and build it up from a complete 5.1?
#65
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When I build or rebuild the car, I make sure the spring retainers are at the same distance from the carbon holder with a caliper. The I check the side springs if they are (almost) the same length. When there is more then 2mm of a difference i replace them.
Then, I start to turn the side spring screws, until the very first moment they touch. I try to screw both springs equally!
When I'm ready rebuilding the car I use the 'coin' method to tweak it. Normally when the car is straight (no carbon tweak) it takes a 1/8 or 1/4 turn to get the spring tension right with the coin trick.
After that I put the car on 4 scales to confirm it's straight.
I understand you have a complete 5.1 right now? The only thing you need then is a On-Point conversion. I converted a 5.1 from a friend of mine. The Black Tubes are with the On-Point conversion. And it's much stronger (carbon and aluminum) then the Associated. The other racer wrecked a chassis, a pod and 5 motor plates in one season. With the On-Point the only thing that's wrecked are his body's...
Just check it at the website: http://www.onpointracing.com
Here's My On-Point for which I bought all black stuff (left) and the Associated 5.1 converted On-Point (right)
Regards Robert
Then, I start to turn the side spring screws, until the very first moment they touch. I try to screw both springs equally!
When I'm ready rebuilding the car I use the 'coin' method to tweak it. Normally when the car is straight (no carbon tweak) it takes a 1/8 or 1/4 turn to get the spring tension right with the coin trick.
After that I put the car on 4 scales to confirm it's straight.
would it be reasonable to convert a 5.1 to this chassis adding only damper tubes? running the 5.1 onpoint chassis and its fast, but i have had a few aluminum parts tweak. my motor plate is f-d.
without buying a 5.2, what would it cost to get this and build it up from a complete 5.1?
without buying a 5.2, what would it cost to get this and build it up from a complete 5.1?
Just check it at the website: http://www.onpointracing.com
Here's My On-Point for which I bought all black stuff (left) and the Associated 5.1 converted On-Point (right)
Regards Robert
#66
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Onpoint doesnt come with shock/ axle ect though? Id prob convert my wgt and buy hubs as the 5.1 i have now would be an excellent stock car. Looking for a new chassis for 10.5/mod.
Is there a different pn? The ones i see around for $200 say they need tubes ect. Would it basically be the same as a 12r5 then dollar wise?
Is there a different pn? The ones i see around for $200 say they need tubes ect. Would it basically be the same as a 12r5 then dollar wise?
#67
Tech Adept
thanks
I have been driving for Associated for a couple of years. Together with a mate we drove the L4, R5, R5.1 and the R5.1 Inline. Associated has some nice cars. But the aluminum sometimes is just butter. Together with the other driver we bent like 10 motor mounts of the R5 in two season.
A big disadvantage of the R5.1 (inline) is that the motor pod tweaks like hell. If you just look at it, it's already tweakt. Now we are both driving the on-point and this is awesome. The pod almost doesn't tweak, and if it tweaks it doesn't tweak that much as the associated.
Also different is the battery position. I can position the battery in the On-point more forward and backward, and with the inline version you can online place it in one place.
I've tested the Associated with the on-point back to back, And i'm faster, I think due to the higher corner speed, with the On-Point with 3 tents at the fast lap.
SO for me I'm really happy to drive the on-point right now. For the CEFX I don't know. I haven't used it.
Regards Robert
A big disadvantage of the R5.1 (inline) is that the motor pod tweaks like hell. If you just look at it, it's already tweakt. Now we are both driving the on-point and this is awesome. The pod almost doesn't tweak, and if it tweaks it doesn't tweak that much as the associated.
Also different is the battery position. I can position the battery in the On-point more forward and backward, and with the inline version you can online place it in one place.
I've tested the Associated with the on-point back to back, And i'm faster, I think due to the higher corner speed, with the On-Point with 3 tents at the fast lap.
SO for me I'm really happy to drive the on-point right now. For the CEFX I don't know. I haven't used it.
Regards Robert
I have to say that I've had the misfortune of having a TOP PHOTON at one time, and the aluminium was blamange!
I am a bit of a tweek freak, so that information was particularly useful
#68
Tech Adept
thanks
I have been driving for Associated for a couple of years. Together with a mate we drove the L4, R5, R5.1 and the R5.1 Inline. Associated has some nice cars. But the aluminum sometimes is just butter. Together with the other driver we bent like 10 motor mounts of the R5 in two season.
A big disadvantage of the R5.1 (inline) is that the motor pod tweaks like hell. If you just look at it, it's already tweakt. Now we are both driving the on-point and this is awesome. The pod almost doesn't tweak, and if it tweaks it doesn't tweak that much as the associated.
Also different is the battery position. I can position the battery in the On-point more forward and backward, and with the inline version you can online place it in one place.
I've tested the Associated with the on-point back to back, And i'm faster, I think due to the higher corner speed, with the On-Point with 3 tents at the fast lap.
SO for me I'm really happy to drive the on-point right now. For the CEFX I don't know. I haven't used it.
Regards Robert
A big disadvantage of the R5.1 (inline) is that the motor pod tweaks like hell. If you just look at it, it's already tweakt. Now we are both driving the on-point and this is awesome. The pod almost doesn't tweak, and if it tweaks it doesn't tweak that much as the associated.
Also different is the battery position. I can position the battery in the On-point more forward and backward, and with the inline version you can online place it in one place.
I've tested the Associated with the on-point back to back, And i'm faster, I think due to the higher corner speed, with the On-Point with 3 tents at the fast lap.
SO for me I'm really happy to drive the on-point right now. For the CEFX I don't know. I haven't used it.
Regards Robert
I have to say that I've had the misfortune of having a TOP PHOTON at one time, and the aluminium was blamange!
I am a bit of a tweak freak, so that information was particularly useful
#70
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Onpoint doesnt come with shock/ axle ect though? Id prob convert my wgt and buy hubs as the 5.1 i have now would be an excellent stock car. Looking for a new chassis for 10.5/mod.
Is there a different pn? The ones i see around for $200 say they need tubes ect. Would it basically be the same as a 12r5 then dollar wise?
Is there a different pn? The ones i see around for $200 say they need tubes ect. Would it basically be the same as a 12r5 then dollar wise?
- On-Point Lipo Racing Chassis OP12C.1 (Black anodized)
- Pod plates
- Shock mount
- Stand offs
- Damper tubes,
- Front end bulk heads
So, You still need:
- Rear Axle
- Center Damper
- Linkage
- Side Springs
- Body Posts
- Front suspension (without the Bulkheads)
Regards Robert
#71
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So I've also been testing the linkage. And I'm having a hard time getting the Assocaited Linkage 'right'. It always has play, or isn't smooth... So I tried the Kyosho Parts from the Plazma and the quality of the parts is u huge difference. It's so much better. It's smooth and has almost zero play. To bad the Kyo parts are expencive and hard to find
Regards Robert
Regards Robert
#73
So I've also been testing the linkage. And I'm having a hard time getting the Assocaited Linkage 'right'. It always has play, or isn't smooth... So I tried the Kyosho Parts from the Plazma and the quality of the parts is u huge difference. It's so much better. It's smooth and has almost zero play. To bad the Kyo parts are expencive and hard to find
Regards Robert
Regards Robert
#74
Tech Adept
Out of interest, has anyone ever tried the Hot Bodies cyclone front suspension on the on point car