Are all "Blinky" class ESCs equal?
#46
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Is the Hobbywing Just Stock out yet? and is it ROAR legal yet?
#47
Yes. We however will still offer "more" in the long run. $100 esc's you get what you pay for. I've heard more than my fair share of complaints in this "segment." That being said we are working on some new products that may fit your bill.
#49
Thanks. In just about anything its always "You get what you pay for". However in "blinky" class, many of the great features on the RS are just wasted. Perhaps a watered down RS with the same great low ON resistance cool running FETs zero timing and simple on board programming like back on the old G10s except brushless.
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I tested a few combinations, found BD & Thunder Power motor as the quickest combo (in a Mi4cx)
I ever only used it in one 5min qualifer at a club meet, it was almost as quick as a 17.5 down the straight & after a few oop's moments on the track came from dead last to 2nd in 2min... It was that impressive, it made a couple of jerk off's from another club compliain to the offical body
I ever only used it in one 5min qualifer at a club meet, it was almost as quick as a 17.5 down the straight & after a few oop's moments on the track came from dead last to 2nd in 2min... It was that impressive, it made a couple of jerk off's from another club compliain to the offical body
#51
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Thanks. In just about anything its always "You get what you pay for". However in "blinky" class, many of the great features on the RS are just wasted. Perhaps a watered down RS with the same great low ON resistance cool running FETs zero timing and simple on board programming like back on the old G10s except brushless.
#52
http://www.speedpassion.net/us/catagory.asp?c=esc&sc=16
you get what you pay for? your not suggesting that because these don't cost over 200 bucks there no good are you??
you get what you pay for? your not suggesting that because these don't cost over 200 bucks there no good are you??
#53
Does it really cost any more to add the extra features? Probably not. with a brushless ESC you have to have a processor to make it all work. The only difference is the overhead (people) to do the extra programming work to add the timing and interface. To save cost you either have to reduce component costs (cheaper or fewer components) or reduce the cost to assemble the product or reduce your overhead. I would guess that Tekin uses the latest assembly methods, so there is not any savings to be had there. That leaves lower component cost or lower overhead to reach the price point. So a sub $100 esc is probably either a loss leader or a lower quality unit.
This is the problem with onroad. Too many people come off that you need to have the very best to par-take in this hobby leaving people the idea that a lesser budget for lesser equipement would be not worthy or worthwhile.
#54
http://www.speedpassion.net/us/catagory.asp?c=esc&sc=16
you get what you pay for? your not suggesting that because these don't cost over 200 bucks there no good are you??
you get what you pay for? your not suggesting that because these don't cost over 200 bucks there no good are you??
#55
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Now you have Novak getting into the zero timing esc's
http://www.teamnovak.com/products/esc/edge/index.html
Cheers
Rob.
http://www.teamnovak.com/products/esc/edge/index.html
Cheers
Rob.
#56
Now you have Novak getting into the zero timing esc's
http://www.teamnovak.com/products/esc/edge/index.html
Cheers
Rob.
http://www.teamnovak.com/products/esc/edge/index.html
Cheers
Rob.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-anything.html
#57
Thanks, I saw that on Novak's site. It has a little bit more ON resistance than the GTB2 but I've also asked how significant that number is nowadays on another thread.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-anything.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-anything.html
They are not all the same. LRP is smoother than a Tekin by a tick, BUT NOBODY HAS CUSTOMER SERVICE LIKE TEKIN!!! If you have a problem with it you are going to have a working one in your mailbox in about a week. With the others.....when they get tired of you calling them after about 4 weeks they will "try to get it out this week" (being the 5th week) I would take my hundred that I have budgeted, throw it in a jar, and drop twenty a week in there until I had enough to get a Tekin.
#58
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I bought a HW "Justock" a couple of months ago, so far I kind of love it, tiny footprint on the chassis, mine seems to give a superb throttle feel and good brakes, they increased the BEC voltage and my steering servo felt a little faster than on the older versions, can't find a thing wrong with it for the $60 I paid.
Add in that you can tweak settings using the LCD programmer, makes it one of the best 'zero timing' budget units you can get, and last I checked most of the HW range is now on the ROAR list, my only gripe is they failed to submit the 2.0 range of the older units, which is dumb because you can easily prove it's running the same exact firmware as a 2.1 etc, yet it still won't be legal.
When it comes to zero profile anything, I'm not sure where anything gains ground over another ESC, for sure I'm not sure where you gain much of anything spending $200 only to lock something into a zero mode, for me while I run zero I can't be assed running anything more complex.
Add in that you can tweak settings using the LCD programmer, makes it one of the best 'zero timing' budget units you can get, and last I checked most of the HW range is now on the ROAR list, my only gripe is they failed to submit the 2.0 range of the older units, which is dumb because you can easily prove it's running the same exact firmware as a 2.1 etc, yet it still won't be legal.
When it comes to zero profile anything, I'm not sure where anything gains ground over another ESC, for sure I'm not sure where you gain much of anything spending $200 only to lock something into a zero mode, for me while I run zero I can't be assed running anything more complex.
#59
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I bought a HW "Justock" a couple of months ago, so far I kind of love it, tiny footprint on the chassis, mine seems to give a superb throttle feel and good brakes, they increased the BEC voltage and my steering servo felt a little faster than on the older versions, can't find a thing wrong with it for the $60 I paid.
Add in that you can tweak settings using the LCD programmer, makes it one of the best 'zero timing' budget units you can get, and last I checked most of the HW range is now on the ROAR list, my only gripe is they failed to submit the 2.0 range of the older units, which is dumb because you can easily prove it's running the same exact firmware as a 2.1 etc, yet it still won't be legal.
When it comes to zero profile anything, I'm not sure where anything gains ground over another ESC, for sure I'm not sure where you gain much of anything spending $200 only to lock something into a zero mode, for me while I run zero I can't be assed running anything more complex.
Add in that you can tweak settings using the LCD programmer, makes it one of the best 'zero timing' budget units you can get, and last I checked most of the HW range is now on the ROAR list, my only gripe is they failed to submit the 2.0 range of the older units, which is dumb because you can easily prove it's running the same exact firmware as a 2.1 etc, yet it still won't be legal.
When it comes to zero profile anything, I'm not sure where anything gains ground over another ESC, for sure I'm not sure where you gain much of anything spending $200 only to lock something into a zero mode, for me while I run zero I can't be assed running anything more complex.
Another one to consider would be the XERUN 60A-SD, for an extra $25(Aus) you have an esc which has the timing feature if you feel like "stepping up" to the next level of racing or you can set it into "blinky" until you're ready to take that next step.
Cheers
Rob.
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I tested a few combinations, found BD & Thunder Power motor as the quickest combo (in a Mi4cx)
I ever only used it in one 5min qualifer at a club meet, it was almost as quick as a 17.5 down the straight & after a few oop's moments on the track came from dead last to 2nd in 2min... It was that impressive, it made a couple of jerk off's from another club compliain to the offical body
I ever only used it in one 5min qualifer at a club meet, it was almost as quick as a 17.5 down the straight & after a few oop's moments on the track came from dead last to 2nd in 2min... It was that impressive, it made a couple of jerk off's from another club compliain to the offical body
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