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Old 10-23-2004, 11:00 AM   #16
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you can get cheap quality equiptment from $ guys who sell thier bling cheap to up grade bigger and better bling.
$ guys will still be one step ahead.
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Old 10-23-2004, 11:17 AM   #17
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Praticing cost a lot of money when it comes to tires and batteries.
I find matched batts too expensive for me to be competitive. Specially lousy peakbull chargers.

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More money allows a driver to buy different types of chassis, do testing, and find the fastest one for his driving style.
Speaking of chassis, how's your newly acquired 414M?
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Old 10-23-2004, 11:24 AM   #18
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my .02 - a guy like Baker, Kinwald, or Hara with a base TL01 will still beat 90% of us with our hopped-up, anodized this, titanium that, paid-way-too-much for the other thing cars.
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Old 10-23-2004, 07:15 PM   #19
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$ guys will still be one step ahead.
You will have the trickest car out there! but no $ left for your race entry
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Old 10-24-2004, 03:24 AM   #20
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[QUOTE]you can get cheap quality equiptment from $ guys who sell thier bling cheap to up grade bigger and better bling.[/
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then its fun to beat them with there old equipment.
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Old 10-24-2004, 03:26 AM   #21
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i love beating guys who spend heaps more money than me.some racers have lots of money but zero skill.

if that was the case then supermaxx would not been invented!!! the products were made to make the poor racer a better racer so hence mo money=champion!!!!
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:07 AM   #22
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The only thing i dont like about this thread is for the newbies out there just getting in to racing ....this type of discussion can scare many away..

I think most would agree that at the "CLUB LEVEL" you dont need to spend like crazy to do well. Skillz from practice would do most guys alot of good over buying another new motor or alloy bit.

For the National level of course money has to be spent. I did not drive 11hours to cleveland for free nor was the 100+CND entry fee picked up by anyone. So yes it cost money.

I would hate to scare new racers away because of the image of guys spending to go faster. Buying new ESC and batteries every 6months or less is not nessasary for the club level.
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Old 10-24-2004, 07:28 AM   #23
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Taking care of what you own is the key to winning.... If you can drive without breaking parts, consistently, you'll eventually win....
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Taking care of what you own is the key to winning.... If you can drive without breaking parts, consistently, you'll eventually win....
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How to beat "deep pocket" racers ?

Here is the case: in some occasion, more money = champion is also true. I have friends with everything good stuffs ( Keyence Pro, always brand new SMC cells, Turbo35, Krypton & V2 motors, TRF 415, EX10-helios ). He always get number 1 or 2 or 3 in big race events. Others deep pockets but with less driving skills are also fast too especially in straight.
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Back in the early 70's in real sports car racing the saying was " you cant beat cubic inches", then in the 80's it changed to " you cant beat cubic dollars "
Still aplies to all forms of car racing!
Make do with the best you have and if the fun goes away, find something else to do.
If youre not racing for money, then its all for laughs anyway
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:08 PM   #26
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The problem for us in this hobby is that once we got hooked, we always looking for ways to get faster...until some one take away our wallets. In my case, my wife.
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:28 PM   #27
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Ive bought the best equipment i could get as then i cant blame it if i lose. Otherwise, it would be, i got motored on the straight because my XXXX sucks etc. This way if i dont win, its driver setup or skills.
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Money will only get you so far, like with anything else. Last year Toyota spent over $300,000,000 (yes the zeros are correct ) in F1 and what did it get them? They wound up EIGTH in the constructors championship behind teams with puny (haha) $50,000,000 dollar budgets. You still need the skill!!
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the one thing that i really want to know is how the pro sponsers live? like barry baker brian kinwald they are full time racers but i dont know how they could live with racing r/c cars for a living ? if you win a race do they get money prices as well ?????
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More money = champion ? Is this always the case ? expensive car, expensive ESC, expensive battery and charger system, and so on ?
People like to say it's 20% car, 80% driver, and I agree that if you give a good car to a bad driver you'll lose, where a good driver with a second-rate car can pull off a win, but depending on the quality of your competitors, if you're lacking in either car or driver, you won't get far.

I just build Tamiya kits mostly for the fun of it, and don't hop em up much beyond factory, wih a 1500mAh pack and inexpensive Futaba radio. The cars end up highly detailed, and even factory will blow most anything your average joe in the apartment block has seen in an R/C car away.

But, if I wanted to start racing, there's a huge initial expense to get in. First, you have to hop-up the car with its kit-specific parts (new shocks, wheels, suspension arms, bearings, etc), or get a new kit altogether (my TA-01LA won't get far against some of the carbon-fiber kits). Then get a new motor for whatever class you run, motor lathe, better charger, discharger, better packs, better radio, racing ESC... it goes on and on. The better your competition, the more of this stuff you need, the better you need to be at using it, and the better you need to drive the end result.
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