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Old 07-12-2012, 10:40 PM   #3091
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I have been looking at F1 cars lately. I noticed that the guy who qualified 8th was running a F1-09, 3 Racings previous F1. I was wondering how much better the FGX is compared to the F1-09? I am reading this thread from the end to the start so maybe the info is out there. I've seen some used F1-09 for good prices w/ electronics but if the FGX is way better then I will start with it.
These F1s are mostly setup based speeds. Ive seen charts of just about every car being faster than another one. In the end, find the one that suits your driving/knowledge/budget better.
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I have been looking at F1 cars lately. I noticed that the guy who qualified 8th was running a F1-09, 3 Racings previous F1. I was wondering how much better the FGX is compared to the F1-09? I am reading this thread from the end to the start so maybe the info is out there. I've seen some used F1-09 for good prices w/ electronics but if the FGX is way better then I will start with it.
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I would not say that FGX is way better than F1-09. However I find it easier to drive with most weather conditions.
F1-09 and tamiya F10X are fast on a dry circuit (may be faster than FGX, just may be ).
On wet circuit, when it is very slippery, I like the way the FGX handles (a lot better) compared to my direct drive formula 1.
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:51 AM   #3093
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I have been looking at F1 cars lately. I noticed that the guy who qualified 8th was running a F1-09, 3 Racings previous F1. I was wondering how much better the FGX is compared to the F1-09? I am reading this thread from the end to the start so maybe the info is out there. I've seen some used F1-09 for good prices w/ electronics but if the FGX is way better then I will start with it.
The FGX was 5/100ths of a second better than the F109 in that qualifier. I think he put the transponder more forward than the F109 driver.

The F109 is simple. The FGX is a pain to build and very weak, but more realistic. That said, I am more excited about trying to make the FGX go faster than I am excited about a link car.
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:19 PM   #3094
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FGX Racing

Yesterday had some tuning and 5 x 15 minute race sessions with F103, F104, F104v2, Exotek f1s.

Three of us had FGX.

Team FGX - Joel, Rodil, Rain







I also raced my F104 alternating with the FGX. Best runs.

Sakura FGX...49lap...15m14.282sec...17.738sec fastest lap
Tamiya F104...50lap...15m13.011sec...16.826sec fastest lap

It is getting faster. Will do some weight reduction (currently 1230gm) and try 0 deg rear toe in.

My F104 also weighed 1230gm but felt lighter (maybe due to efficient direct drive transmission).
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Rides look sweet !!! Really like the Track in the back round ..
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:54 PM   #3096
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i have seen i think most of the pictures of your fgx cars but, how come most of you are not using the supplied on-board cameras? i think they look cool. back in the f201 days people paid $$ for winglets and on-board cameras. i have seen some winglets like the previous pic has, anyways...
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i have seen i think most of the pictures of your fgx cars but, how come most of you are not using the supplied on-board cameras? i think they look cool. back in the f201 days people paid $$ for winglets and on-board cameras. i have seen some winglets like the previous pic has, anyways...
Mine broke off soon after the front end broke the first time
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I broke my front steering knuckle on the weekend, and I'm wondering if I should replace it with 3Racing parts or tamiya f104 stuff. I know the 104 bits are more durable, but what tyre options would that give me?

I run on outdoor asphalt, and currently use HPI soft front and med rear, and I'm still looking for more steering, but they work Ok.

What's the 104 parts needed to do the conversion?
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Mine broke off soon after the front end broke the first time
that sucks, guess i have been lucky because i have had an on-board camera on my 104 for a couple of years and surprisingly its still there. scratched up but, there. haven't ran the fgx yet, but i hope it stays together.
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that sucks, guess i have been lucky because i have had an on-board camera on my 104 for a couple of years and surprisingly its still there. scratched up but, there. haven't ran the fgx yet, but i hope it stays together.
I ran one when I first got the car and lost it when the car rolled in a corner . never took the time to put it back on .. looks good for pic's ..
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I broke my front steering knuckle on the weekend, and I'm wondering if I should replace it with 3Racing parts or tamiya f104 stuff. I know the 104 bits are more durable, but what tyre options would that give me?

I run on outdoor asphalt, and currently use HPI soft front and med rear, and I'm still looking for more steering, but they work Ok.

What's the 104 parts needed to do the conversion?
I don't think that you can convert to a f104 front end on the fgx platform. You have to get the rabbit chassis conversion to do so. The tamiya steering knuckles are shorter than the fgx knuckles too so you would probably loose steering throw. Your best bet is probably the aluminium set from 3racing.
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I don't think that you can convert to a f104 front end on the fgx platform. You have to get the rabbit chassis conversion to do so. The tamiya steering knuckles are shorter than the fgx knuckles too so you would probably loose steering throw. Your best bet is probably the aluminium set from 3racing.
Do the alloy ones take the bigger bearings or the standard ones?
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I don't think that you can convert to a f104 front end on the fgx platform. You have to get the rabbit chassis conversion to do so. The tamiya steering knuckles are shorter than the fgx knuckles too so you would probably loose steering throw. Your best bet is probably the aluminium set from 3racing.
You can run the F104 knuckles on the FGX but you have to change the rims as well since the bearings are in the rims on the F104. Several people have done this to get rid of a lot of the slop in the front end of the FGX. You do loose about a degree of steering throw but it doesn't seem to affect the car. I'm running the TRG knuckles for the F104 and cut longer arms for the knuckles so I now have a F104 axle/knuckle with the same steering throw as the FGX.
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Actually you gain steering throw because the Tamiya knuckles are shorter . 3Racing aluminum knuckles are horrible and have more slop than the plastic ones
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Hello, just an update. Added info on latest test session.

3Racing Sakura FGX Build Tips and Review

Main performance improvement was reducing rear droop to almost zero and keep running the tires. As the tires get broken in and softer with traction compound and usage, handling and laptimes improved.
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