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Old 06-14-2016, 04:28 AM   #301
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This past weekend I used the Ride XR rears on a rough outdoor parking lot asphalt track with temps near 120F on race surface and they showed almost no wear. I was concerned with previous posts about tires wearing out and/or losing grip fast but I experienced none of these issues. I also tried the Ride R1 rears but they had less grip the newer XR's.
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This past weekend I used the Ride XR rears on a rough outdoor parking lot asphalt track with temps near 120F on race surface and they showed almost no wear. I was concerned with previous posts about tires wearing out and/or losing grip fast but I experienced none of these issues. I also tried the Ride R1 rears but they had less grip the newer XR's.
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We found out the XR rear are good no rough asphalt. The precondition is they must not be sauced. Once sauced they seems to start behave strangely.
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Front what I noticed with the Ride XR tires are they do not like the heat that much. They work on warm weather, around 25-30c track temp. Anything higher they start to loose grip. In the same track conditions the car handled better on the Pit Shimizu 573/572 than the XR.
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We found out the XR rear are good no rough asphalt. The precondition is they must not be sauced. Once sauced they seems to start behave strangely.
I ran 574/Ride XR and cleaned tires on only with tire sauce and left tires alone, no sauce as you added
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Front what I noticed with the Ride XR tires are they do not like the heat that much. They work on warm weather, around 25-30c track temp. Anything higher they start to loose grip. In the same track conditions the car handled better on the Pit Shimizu 573/572 than the XR.
I expected the 572's too work better but they didn't. There was a F1R3 and a F1R2, neither car liked the 572 rears at this track. Both cars ran 574/RideXR
Cleaned tires only with traction compound and didn't reapply, left them dry
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This past weekend I used the Ride XR rears on a rough outdoor parking lot asphalt track with temps near 120F on race surface and they showed almost no wear. I was concerned with previous posts about tires wearing out and/or losing grip fast but I experienced none of these issues. I also tried the Ride R1 rears but they had less grip the newer XR's.
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We have had the same experience. And they are working better with faster laps and easier to drive than any pit combo. I have two guys with 5+ race days on a set still working good.
Next best combo at our track is tamiya kit fronts 572 rear
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My only issue with the Rides is that the wheels seem to crack easily, at the hub. I need to drive better, but still...
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Old 06-14-2016, 01:59 PM   #308
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Interesting. So what will you say they are closest to as far as Pits go Jay? Speedworld is also a very specific traction type.Have you tried them anywhere else?
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We have had the same experience. And they are working better with faster laps and easier to drive than any pit combo. I have two guys with 5+ race days on a set still working good.
Next best combo at our track is tamiya kit fronts 572 rear
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Old 06-14-2016, 04:13 PM   #309
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Ride XR:

carpet: 574/575 destroy them
Ripon: very similar to 571/572 but little less twitchy, equally as fast

most similar to 573/572, but they don't scrub as much on entry/early mid, but they have alittle less entry

I have compared to, at all above tracks and swr:
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Pit 572,573,574,575,590 and 571 with stock, pit soft and Tuning Haus soft inserts also 572 and 574 on Exotek wide rims
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So pits are better then XRs on carpet?

Where are you getting your XRs from? Better question is Brandon using them?
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:43 AM   #311
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carpet: in the front, pits or yok soft, rear it's a tuning thing, I usually go back to 575, the xr are alittle more stuck but wear out super quick

I been buying them from the-border but heard TQ should have them soon.

Yes I finally got Brandon to run them and he loves them. Instead of dropping one fast lap he can drop consistent fast laps now. Also we swapped him to the new yokomo F1. Took some tuning by me but it is ballistic now, mega steering with stability and the diff is amazing.
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hey guys, I need a little help, there is a lot of info here on tires, and Im trying to understand it but you guys have the lingo down and Im just learning it so please bear with me on this question, I don't have track guys to mentor me locally. I just got a f104 pro, I researched this car and from what I understand the t bar is easier for newbs than the links, having said that I will be practicing on new asphalt and need some tires to get me started. I don't have tires or wheels. So first question exotek or tamiya rubber wheels, (i don't feel confident enough to use foam wheels as far as glueing goes). and second question is tires, what should be my first set? I need something to put laps down with so I can learn how to drive without burning thru a mess of tires (I am on a budget). thx for reading this if you did, sorry for the lengthiness.
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how do you prevent this??


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Old 06-19-2016, 10:27 AM   #314
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Death Groove

Usually take a LOT of runs for me to get there but that's the typical wear for these.
I've run these right up to nearly that point and they are still good til point of no return.

The early failure is usually the torn sidewalls from impact and I have reglued them also and run them till Death Groove as well with success.
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Ring of death.
It happens...I agree the tires are still pretty good until they actually split.
I am assuming it's the loading closer to the pod that takes the brunt of the force as they all seem to wear here.
I get a TON of runs out of my tires before they do this... but I carpet only race so...asphalt wear may be 2x as fast.
It looks from the blistering you might be running outdoors so maybe one of the asphalt guys can chime in on compound.



Coming from TC I have zero issues buying rear tires only once every month or so as/to 1 or twice a weekend.
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