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Old 12-19-2016, 01:39 AM   #676
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The Associated TC3 is the current New Zealand national champion in 21.5T Touring. It has beaten many very expensive late model cars. I think what makes it so great is:
And yet we had the claims from certain NZ drivers that you need to spend $1000+ to race competitively in stock .
Plastic tub TA05 used to win plenty of Stock races , against the carbon fantastics .
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I suddenly have the urge to buy a brand new TL01 LA for Christmas
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Speaking of TL-01.. How do i make it more stable? the rear end is so snappy. Ive had this problem before but i drive so irregulary i forget what worked. It got killer turn in tho :P
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Try swapping front tires to the rear. Less front camber, more rear. 2deg toe in rear. Wider front, narrower rear width. Level ride height front/rear. If stock front caster, nothing you can do. Makes for a great rally car though
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Yesterday I won 17.5 rookie sedan using TC4 with Diggity DC4 upgrade and an HPI FD Rx7 body. It handled on rails, lapped the field, 2nd place had a TC6.1.. My FTTC4 with the Losi DCJ's does very well in VTA too.

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I think what makes it so great is:
- Shaft drive
- Very low CG
- limited set up options keeps things much simpler.
Agreed. It was the simplicity, having just enough setup options to get it right, and good inexpensive parts support that brought me to the TC4.
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Old 12-19-2016, 06:00 PM   #681
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The thing I find really amusing on here, is how many times someone says "the new XXXX 2016 model handles much better than the XXX 2015 model" or have you noticed how many times someone makes a change which really improves the car.

I test things almost every meeting and to be honest probably 70% of the time there is either no difference or the car is worse for whatever reason. Only every now and then I find a true gain.

Sometimes I think it may work on another track but not the one I am racing on.

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The thing I find really amusing on here, is how many times someone says "the new XXXX 2016 model handles much better than the XXX 2015 model" or have you noticed how many times someone makes a change which really improves the car.

I test things almost every meeting and to be honest probably 70% of the time there is either no difference or the car is worse for whatever reason. Only every now and then I find a true gain.

Sometimes I think it may work on another track but not the one I am racing on.

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Whenever someone says the new model handles much better than the old one, my first thought is that the manufacturers provided a better setup out of the box. If the chassis really did improve that much every year, then a 2-3 year old car wouldn't stand a chance, let alone a vintage one.

The ones I find most amusing is when most people initially says the car is so much better, but when the next model replaces it, the same people say it was actually not that good after all and the previous one was better. I think I saw that type of discussion about the TC5, and also about the BD7'16.
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Xray T1 Fk05s runningin VTA and USGT, cars are competitive but the driver not so much.
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There is only one such car.... The tc7.1 shocks were shipped today guys. Hopefully I'll be able to install them before the next club race in 2017...
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year....
I hope to race a box stock tc4 with my tc4.2 someday, just to showcase the improvements... .
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Try swapping front tires to the rear. Less front camber, more rear. 2deg toe in rear. Wider front, narrower rear width. Level ride height front/rear. If stock front caster, nothing you can do. Makes for a great rally car though
Do you have a recommended tire?

Where do i start if i like Sorex tires.. 34R? and rock hard inserts to work the tires more?

I got the extra toe inn at the back.

Dampers and springs?
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Not sure if the question was asked before.

Do you think that a top driver like Keven Hebert (world team associated driver) could be competitive with an older car at those big race.
Example, if you give him a TC4, it will be fun to see if he could follow other top driver.
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Not sure if the question was asked before.

Do you think that a top driver like Keven Hebert (world team associated driver) could be competitive with an older car at those big race.
Example, if you give him a TC4, it will be fun to see if he could follow other top driver.
As long as it was a stock type class like 21.5 or 17.5 Im sure he would be. Remember people have learned more about tuning since 2000, so for sure he could apply his current ideas to the tc4.
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ok but what about mod.

is a TC4 or any older car could be competitive in a good driver hand?
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ok but what about mod.

is a TC4 or any older car could be competitive in a good driver hand?
Mod is quite hard on the drivetrain. Its possible to do, but I wouldn't recommend it.
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