Will onroad return in the north?
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#47
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I think that WGT and 1/12 17.5 could be a great combo but they need to re-evaluate the body rules for WGT...most of the HPI bodies have been out of stock/discontinued for years and with the class showing some definite potential for major growth (largest class at the most recent Nats in WA), I think a little research into the FIA GT1, GT2 and GT3 CHampionships, the Blancpain Endurance series and a few others could yield some very good bodies:
Ascari KZ1R
Audi R8 LMS
BMW Alpina B6
Lamborghini Gallardo
BMW M3 GT2
Just to name a few...
Ascari KZ1R
Audi R8 LMS
BMW Alpina B6
Lamborghini Gallardo
BMW M3 GT2
Just to name a few...
#48
Cost is a big factor, not because there are not good entry level options but because newbies are enticed by speed. Whats the first thing out of a potential customers mouth the first time in a hobby shop.... HOW FAST DOES IT GO!!! Selling a slow entry level ride is a tough sell in todays immdiate satisfaction generation. Of course thay then take that $1000 ride and smash into the first turn and then are pissed go figure.
Off-road is big because its cheap to enter(not at all cheap to run when you figure in tires) and because little jonnie does not need a preped track. He can take that SC truck home buy/build a ramp and fly the piss out of that truck while all the neighbor kids go oooh and ahhhh.
I wish I had the answer to the op's question mabey all it will take is time.
Off-road is big because its cheap to enter(not at all cheap to run when you figure in tires) and because little jonnie does not need a preped track. He can take that SC truck home buy/build a ramp and fly the piss out of that truck while all the neighbor kids go oooh and ahhhh.
I wish I had the answer to the op's question mabey all it will take is time.
#49
sure onroad has been down this season around our area but we also have to big offroad tracks in the area as well.. from my point a view it doesnt get any easier than 1s 1/12th 17,5 no boost car...one car, one 1s pack, novak havok 1s, black fronts,yellowrears...boom your racing a great class for under $250..there is nothing even close to the easiness and driving...no four shocks, no dogbones..etc..this is as simple as 123..4'6" turning radius and quick tweak...your going racing...now if you want to save more money buy a used car and your now under $200.
Off road is simple compared to onroad, and I think that attracts more people as the learning curve is less.
Shawn.
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I think that WGT and 1/12 17.5 could be a great combo but they need to re-evaluate the body rules for WGT...most of the HPI bodies have been out of stock/discontinued for years and with the class showing some definite potential for major growth (largest class at the most recent Nats in WA), I think a little research into the FIA GT1, GT2 and GT3 CHampionships, the Blancpain Endurance series and a few others could yield some very good bodies:
Ascari KZ1R
Audi R8 LMS
BMW Alpina B6
Lamborghini Gallardo
BMW M3 GT2
Just to name a few...
Ascari KZ1R
Audi R8 LMS
BMW Alpina B6
Lamborghini Gallardo
BMW M3 GT2
Just to name a few...
8.10.4.6.2 World GT body rules:
Bodies must be based on production front engine - rear drive autos
Body must be a replica of an original, 2 door sports/gt production car or based on
a full sized auto which has been raced in a major series (Speed World Challenge,
FIA GT Championship, ALMS GT1 + GT2, Japanese GT Championship, etc.)
Bodies must be of a model year no older than 10 years prior to the year of
submittal
At the end of the day, do what's right for YOUR track or your club!
#52
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Dale's busy punching out all the Sophias he can...and selling out of 'em as fast as he can punch 'em out. Why does he want to make anything else? It's not like his lids are going to cover MORE than 100% of the WGT field.
The CONCEPT of WGT was going to be GREAT...using the real-looking bodies HPI and others do, etc. But as soon as the class was announced a couple body manufacturers created race-aero blobs and ruined it (to my admittedly jaded eye).
The CONCEPT of WGT was going to be GREAT...using the real-looking bodies HPI and others do, etc. But as soon as the class was announced a couple body manufacturers created race-aero blobs and ruined it (to my admittedly jaded eye).
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The McCallister Ferrari 599 and the Parma DB9 both have their followings....but at a local level. Until/unless one of those, or another, lid starts winning on the US or international stage, that's what we're stuck with. Really, the "WGT Body Debate" thread is very informative!
Locally, we're running a very loose interpertation of the ROAR spec for bodies, and having a blast!
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Back to the topic in hand
#57
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Cost is a big factor, not because there are not good entry level options but because newbies are enticed by speed. Whats the first thing out of a potential customers mouth the first time in a hobby shop.... HOW FAST DOES IT GO!!! Selling a slow entry level ride is a tough sell in todays immdiate satisfaction generation. Of course thay then take that $1000 ride and smash into the first turn and then are pissed go figure.
Off-road is big because its cheap to enter(not at all cheap to run when you figure in tires) and because little jonnie does not need a preped track. He can take that SC truck home buy/build a ramp and fly the piss out of that truck while all the neighbor kids go oooh and ahhhh.
I wish I had the answer to the op's question mabey all it will take is time.
Off-road is big because its cheap to enter(not at all cheap to run when you figure in tires) and because little jonnie does not need a preped track. He can take that SC truck home buy/build a ramp and fly the piss out of that truck while all the neighbor kids go oooh and ahhhh.
I wish I had the answer to the op's question mabey all it will take is time.
I agree, Off road looks more appealing to the general masses. Now they are making them almost waterproof too.
#58
We are starting to have a spec class for M chassis and 1/10 tc at LHS. Parking lot property owner gave us the ok sign to setup a temp track with dots and cones. We might even consider getting pvc pipes and different angled pipe connectors. I hope on-road can get popular again, it should be the least difficult to setup a track, that's what made parking lot racing so big in 90s.
#59
Tech Master
I'm kinda crunk, so don't hold this against me... but what would it take to make a SCT-based on-road car? A new body for sure. Something to keep the chassis from rolling too much. Otherwise? Maybe some tire options for different levels of traction. Maybe some dots for little obstacles on on-road tracks. Otherwise? Am I nuts?
people get bored of true spec class racing. once they get used to the speed, some of them move up to the faster classes. But then the spec class dies out, and the guys that stuck with it eventually disappears. Then after a while the whole track undergoes a "omg, we need more racers" and new "spec" class is born. This cycle repeats.
#60
To redbones
Hi, I agree with you. I've seen many tracks come and go within last 15 - 18 years here at Mpls/St Paul, MN. We had really good tracks that were capable of hosting national event. Once drivers get more skilled and moved up to next level, in perfect world there would be another batch of new drivers (novice level). However, lots of people don't stay in r/c hobby for long time. Most of people I raced with are no longer involved in the hobby. I'm glad that I am still working part time at LHS (12th year next Jan) which kept me interested in the hobby.