New Reedy TI With aliminium Endbell
09-08-2004, 12:20 AM
#1
New Reedy TI With aliminium Endbell
Has anybody seen or heard about this motor??
I didnt think it would be long untill Reedy to come out with a motor to conquer the V2s if they can.
Anyway should be interesting and would be good to get peoples view on thse motors.
Thanks
I didnt think it would be long untill Reedy to come out with a motor to conquer the V2s if they can.
Anyway should be interesting and would be good to get peoples view on thse motors.
Thanks
09-08-2004, 12:28 AM
#2
I only see one advantage to an aluminum endbell. It will act as a heat sink, especially for the brushes/com. Other than that, I don't see any other advantages for RC applications.
We have been using aluminumb endbells in high end slot car motors for over 15 years now. The slot industry had to make the change because the motors get so hot we were actually melting the endbells. At the time we were actualy using plastic that melted between 425-500 degrees!! RC motors dont get that hot.
It is also good that the slot industry has done the R&D on the best way to anodize and insulate the endbell. Remember that aluminum conducts and if the two brushes and the hardware aren't insulated then the motor becomes one big short circuit. That was a common problem with early alum slot endbells.
We have been using aluminumb endbells in high end slot car motors for over 15 years now. The slot industry had to make the change because the motors get so hot we were actually melting the endbells. At the time we were actualy using plastic that melted between 425-500 degrees!! RC motors dont get that hot.
It is also good that the slot industry has done the R&D on the best way to anodize and insulate the endbell. Remember that aluminum conducts and if the two brushes and the hardware aren't insulated then the motor becomes one big short circuit. That was a common problem with early alum slot endbells.
09-08-2004, 12:44 AM
#3
Tech Master
Originally posted by Scott Fisher
Remember that aluminum conducts and if the two brushes and the hardware aren't insulated then the motor becomes one big short circuit. That was a common problem with early alum slot endbells.
Remember that aluminum conducts and if the two brushes and the hardware aren't insulated then the motor becomes one big short circuit. That was a common problem with early alum slot endbells.
09-08-2004, 01:20 AM
#4
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Like Scott said if the aluminium isn't insulated corrctly the whole entire endbell becomes a short circuit. (big problem with the V2 design which causes your speedo wires to come off!!)
The aluminium does act as a heat sink for a little bit, but once it is warm it traps too much heat. Another problem with the V2 is it traps in heat like a oven thats why the factory guys cut large holes and slots in their V2 endbells. And use HIGH TEMP solder on their wires!
But if the endbel as sufficent air flow through it the aluminum will work well.
The aluminium does act as a heat sink for a little bit, but once it is warm it traps too much heat. Another problem with the V2 is it traps in heat like a oven thats why the factory guys cut large holes and slots in their V2 endbells. And use HIGH TEMP solder on their wires!
But if the endbel as sufficent air flow through it the aluminum will work well.
Last edited by Andrew Swanson; 09-08-2004 at 01:16 PM.
09-08-2004, 01:25 AM
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i though the V2 endbell might have a heat problem like that, looks like i will be giving my V2's the cnc treatment when i get them. i wonder if this will be legal (ifmar, roar etc)
09-08-2004, 02:52 AM
#6
I've heard orion is having some problems with the solder on their arms melting and it is good for around 600*...(according to bj) I'd rather see an endbell that uses stand-up brushes at 45* and standard springs instead of an Alum endbell. The only time I've ever melted a composite endbell was when I shot 12v into a stock motor. 
09-08-2004, 08:34 AM
#7
Originally posted by Andrew Swanson
like scott said if the aluminum isnt insulated corrctly you get lots of shorts (big problem with the V2 design which causes your speedo wires to come off!!)
Also the aluminum does act as a heat sink for a likttle bit but once its warm it traps too much heat. Another problem with the V2 is it traps in heat like a oven thats why the factory guys cut large holes and slots in their V2 endbells.
But if the endbel as sufficent air flow through it the aluminum will work well.
like scott said if the aluminum isnt insulated corrctly you get lots of shorts (big problem with the V2 design which causes your speedo wires to come off!!)
Also the aluminum does act as a heat sink for a likttle bit but once its warm it traps too much heat. Another problem with the V2 is it traps in heat like a oven thats why the factory guys cut large holes and slots in their V2 endbells.
But if the endbel as sufficent air flow through it the aluminum will work well.
I have actually never had a wire come unsoldered, never used a fan, and use the stock endbell. No problems here. The 10,000+ customers who have bought one are pretty satisifed, as are the drivers who are winning about every big race worldwide.
You are simply not a very good driver, and have to blame something or someone other than yourself for your poor results.
wow
09-08-2004, 08:47 AM
#9
Tech Master
Originally posted by Rick Hohwart
Really? I had no idea you are such an expert. Engineering degree? from where?
I have actually never had a wire come unsoldered, never used a fan, and use the stock endbell. No problems here. The 10,000+ customers who have bought one are pretty satisifed, as are the drivers who are winning about every big race worldwide.
You are simply not a very good driver, and have to blame something or someone other than yourself for your poor results.
Really? I had no idea you are such an expert. Engineering degree? from where?
I have actually never had a wire come unsoldered, never used a fan, and use the stock endbell. No problems here. The 10,000+ customers who have bought one are pretty satisifed, as are the drivers who are winning about every big race worldwide.
You are simply not a very good driver, and have to blame something or someone other than yourself for your poor results.
09-08-2004, 10:41 AM
#15
Originally posted by Rick Hohwart
Really? I had no idea you are such an expert. Engineering degree? from where?
I have actually never had a wire come unsoldered, never used a fan, and use the stock endbell. No problems here. The 10,000+ customers who have bought one are pretty satisifed, as are the drivers who are winning about every big race worldwide.
You are simply not a very good driver, and have to blame something or someone other than yourself for your poor results.
Really? I had no idea you are such an expert. Engineering degree? from where?
I have actually never had a wire come unsoldered, never used a fan, and use the stock endbell. No problems here. The 10,000+ customers who have bought one are pretty satisifed, as are the drivers who are winning about every big race worldwide.
You are simply not a very good driver, and have to blame something or someone other than yourself for your poor results.
Forget a degree he probably doesnt even have a diploma.From the way he spells, looks as if driving isnt his only problem. See kids stay in school dont become a R/C drop out flunkie.