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Old 05-06-2017, 11:37 AM   #226
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What are your track temperatures right now? I find the GR tires work much better with warmer weather. They also need to be broken in as well. Its too bad you guys cant sauce the tires, can you heat them up tho? wouldnt hurt to heat them up a bit.

I THINK Im running 6degree caster on my car, that seem to work well. As Ive said before, moving the steering linkage to the front 2 holes made my car extremely twitchy down the straight to the point of undriveable. But my car have come a long way since then. Doesnt hurt to play with the ackerman and see if that helps with more steering.

Im using the stock front springs and it works pretty well on my track. Its just a general rule of thumb if the car isnt turning enough, you use softer front springs to get more steering.

Ive changed my side springs to the hardest WRC offers and it seem to work for me. Im not sensitive enough to actually tell the difference between medium or hard tho. One thing for sure, if i increase the preload on the side springs, it helped a lot with handling. To me, I think the preload helps the rear pod to return to center. You really need to spend some time experimenting with setting. It took me a while but my car is dialed right now.

Heres my car with GR tires, stock front springs, hard side springs, track surface temp is around 28c.

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Old 05-06-2017, 11:47 AM   #227
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Looks quite good! Definitely more steering than I have had racing last weekend.
We may heat up our tires and thats what all of us did!
Don't know about the exact track temp. but air wasn't more than 17 and only very little sunny times so track might have been quote similar
I'll have to see, what changes I can check out untill the next race.
I don't whant to hurry and will pnly make one chane after the other and then live with the best I can do untill the next race.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:55 PM   #228
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If that was your first time out with the tires you might need a few runs in them to break them in. I generally sauce them once the first time on the track and after the rubber breaks in, I dont feel the need to sauce them again. I can just drop the car on the track, drive a lap or 2 to get some heat in the tires and they hook up.

17c air temp seemed a bit cold, I havent tried them that cold, but I believe if they are broken in they should hook up pretty well.
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Old 05-13-2017, 07:27 AM   #229
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Because it's raining, there's no oportunity for testing until tomorrow.
So I spent the time installing a blinking tail light
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What are gearing options for both 21.5 and 25.5
We run 21 outdoors and 25 indoors so would need gearing for both tia
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Depends how big your track is, I was running 84/44 in the video
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Indoors is 15 by 55 and outdoors will be about the same
The indoor track is where roar carpet nats was held this year and outdoors is Jackson RC raceway
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:13 AM   #233
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15x55 what? ft? yard? m?

I assume its not in ft as that sounds way to small. Yards or meters is more reasonable and its slightly smaller than the track you saw on my video. Try 2.0 first and see if that works and work your way up or down from there
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15x55 what? ft? yard? m?

I assume its not in ft as that sounds way to small. Yards or meters is more reasonable and its slightly smaller than the track you saw on my video. Try 2.0 first and see if that works and work your way up or down from there
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Old 05-17-2017, 02:04 PM   #235
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I had my second F1 race last sunday.
Quite happy with the car.
Changed caster from 3 to 6 and moved 35g approx. 4cm forward (just behind the servo).
Definitely less understeer than before but the rear end was still planted.
Some understeer when going off throttle into a fast corner after the longest straight - mayby only when I was too fast because of lifting the throttle too late ...
But car was still ease to drive so for me that's a good point to continue improving my driving.
For anyone who might be interested find my current setup below.
Maybe not agressive enough for a good driver but for me a solid basis being new to F1.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:25 PM   #236
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Indoor high bite black CRC carpet any setups for that or am I SOL and testing on my own lol
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What springs can be used on this car from and sides I know I can use x-ray for center
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What springs can be used on this car from and sides I know I can use x-ray for center
Sure you might use several brands - all I can tell is I'm using Tamiya front and side springs:
Roll spring set Tamiya #54352
> copper - silver - gold - black (with silver and gold to be quite close to each other)
Front spring set Tamiya #50509
> silver - gold - black
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Sure you might use several brands - all I can tell is I'm using Tamiya front and side springs:
Roll spring set Tamiya #54352
> copper - silver - gold - black (with silver and gold to be quite close to each other)
Front spring set Tamiya #50509
> silver - gold - black
Thank you for the quick response will x-ray side and front springs work only reason being is that I'm in the states and parts support is almost none will be able to get x-ray springs and are fairly quickly at hobby shops local as for breakables I will be at the mercy of snail mail from Florida from Wallace motorsports
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