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Old 06-26-2015, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AM03GT
Been running a swiss-cheese chassis for years (circa 2005 so strength and breakage aren't really an issue as long as you keep the structural areas untouched) did it initially for weight but over time with more laps and setup behind it I definitely feel like it makes the chassis less twitchy. These are old pics since these I have taken out 2 of the cross beams under the battery and added a custom CF rear bumper.

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Nice job ! any idea what the weight was for the car ready to run ?
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Originally Posted by Ralph289
Nice job ! any idea what the weight was for the car ready to run ?
Thanks definitely not as clean as if someone who has access to a mill it was all done by dremel but everything drives true and straight. race ready the car is dead center on my tweak station.

I'll try to get a "race ready" weight tonight.
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What do you think of milling down the center spine and outer, vertical lip of the tub. I'd think that would increase flex the most. 3 mm would be a good start.
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Originally Posted by RotorTruck
What do you think of milling down the center spine and outer, vertical lip of the tub. I'd think that would increase flex the most. 3 mm would be a good start.
just my opinion...
A little flex will calm the car down but too much especially along the chassis is not desirable. The shaft is not as forgiving as belts along the chassis and you don't want a hard hit to be able to put too much stress through the drivetrain and possible flexing the shaft.

I did a lot of the cutting all at once so its hard to say what each section or amount does for handling but I do know that cutting the inner cross bar of the camber link mounts makes a pretty big difference on its own.
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I would think that having too much flex in a shaft-drive car would result in more tendency to torque-steer. I don't know how much, though, and running 17.5 you don't have much torque anyway.
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Old 06-26-2015, 11:31 AM
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If it bends too much longitudinally the main shaft will bind in the cups and snappo. Wonder if I should leave that center spine alone.
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No need to cut more than the camber mounts... Shock work will get you more positive results, and if you want to lose weight, changing the screws is the way to go....
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i've already done the AL screws, wanted to drop weight especially around the perimeter of the car
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I see...
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torque steer is non-existent in this case especially running VTA with 25.5 motors...

car ready to run weighs in at 1509g. Battery pack 294g for VTA still need 41g to meet USVTA spec
This is with a piece of balance brass I already have on the car which is 13g and a clip-on heatsink and fan on the motor which is 18g. 80% or so of my hardware is stainless steel which is probably worth a few grams in weight over an aluminum or titanium screw setup.

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Originally Posted by AM03GT
torque steer is non-existent in this case especially running VTA with 25.5 motors...

car ready to run weighs in at 1509g. Battery pack 294g for VTA still need 41g to meet USVTA spec
This is with a piece of balance brass I already have on the car which is 13g and a clip-on heatsink and fan on the motor which is 18g. 80% or so of my hardware is stainless steel which is probably worth a few grams in weight over an aluminum or titanium screw setup.

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Guess you had the tires on the roof ? Don't see them on the car in the picture. Looks good.
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Originally Posted by Ralph289
Guess you had the tires on the roof ? Don't see them on the car in the picture. Looks good.
Thanks chassis was sitting on the 4 vta mou Ted wheels/tires.
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You guys drinking the B5m Kool-Aid? I personally will never and have never swiss cheesed a chassis. a shaft drive chassis that flexes when you Accelerate seems like it would be very unpredictable especially in a high power application
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Sorry I put all my drilled pistons in my cars... I used a very small 5/64" or 3/32" drill bit to make holes a little smaller than the AE #2 piston holes... I made the holes in a cross pattern until I reached eight holes . The idea is to have the whole face of the piston full of holes to stop the crazy AE shock pack and rebound that is not needed in on road... Now the size of the holes can vary, but I like the full grid of holes better than a few holes...
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Show us a piston with the extra holes AND what size are the holes?
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Reducing wheel play, front and rear, will seriously improve performance.... Lots of meticulous work needed to achieve minimal play though....
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