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Old 07-10-2014, 08:43 PM   #12736
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@desertrat. What does that setup weigh rtr? And is it worth the money? I'd really like a carbon fiber tc4 but don't know if I can bring myself to spend what a new kits costs on a conversion kit
My car as pictured with the big metal gear servo, hefty no-motor-limit EST, 7400mah battery, fan and all the rest comes to 1396g with a standard weight body. The car is not quite complete, as it will need swaybars to race, but there isn't really any more weight for the car to lose as it has about two steel screws left in the car! That, and I haven't re-installed the swaybars yet...

That being said, a TC4 factory team with the carbon chassis and all the rest would be MUCH heavier, which is the advantage of the Diggity car over any associated product, it simplifies the car and saves you a massive amount of weight. If I ran a lightweight body, I think my DC4LE would be close to the lower limit. Remember that a body without any paint weighs over 100g, going from .030 to .025 lexan saves a bit.

One thing is for sure, I won't need to worry if I'm underweight!
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:42 PM   #12737
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That protek pack weighs a ton...lol... 333 grams ...wow... The dc4 le is pretty light though.... With a very light battery, lightweight body, and light electronics, the dc4 le will be in the 1200gram world...
1396 - 125(3300 battery) - 20(light body) - 50(light electronics) equals 1201 grams.... Add 179 grams flat on the chassis, and you' ll make weight... Weight holes down the middle would be great for lowering the center of gravity....
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Old 07-11-2014, 12:16 AM   #12738
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That protek pack weighs a ton...lol... 333 grams ...wow... The dc4 le is pretty light though.... With a very light battery, lightweight body, and light electronics, the dc4 le will be in the 1200gram world...
1396 - 125(3300 battery) - 20(light body) - 50(light electronics) equals 1201 grams.... Add 179 grams flat on the chassis, and you' ll make weight... Weight holes down the middle would be great for lowering the center of gravity....
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:35 AM   #12739
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Greetings, I have a carbon fiber/aluminum converted TC4 I bought that came with a sway bar installed up front but it doesn't have a rear one. Does anyone know if the sways bars TA sells ( ASC31057 ) are for both front and rear or do I need to buy a rear set separately?

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Old 07-11-2014, 11:07 AM   #12740
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Old 07-11-2014, 11:10 AM   #12741
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Does anyone have recommendations for a metal spur gear for this vehicle? I do a lot of parking lot drifting and rocks keep eating my plastic ones
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:27 PM   #12743
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One of the funky Chinese places like Asiatees or boom racing may have one that will work but I wouldn't trust it. Perhaps u need to find a new place to drift if your chewing up spur gears I can't imagine the damage that's happening to your chassis and tires.
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Old 07-12-2014, 07:28 PM   #12744
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How does one adjust the rear diff in this car? My rear diff is too stiff.

On another note, I took my car to a large track today and had a blast. I was running 18.5 second laps and with many adjustments and practice I was in the 16.5-17 range. I handed my transmitter to a semi-pro driver and he basically ran 15.4 laps... I think he is running 14 second. laps with his car.... I don't have enough motor..5.5t and need to change my esc too... Also running the stock body, but have a protoform Mazda that needs installation. This may help a tiny bit...I will change out the esc and motor in the future... On another note...I borrowed a friends shorty pack80 c and 4600mah as opposed to my standard 7200 mah heavier packs. My c rating for the 7200 is 70 c if memory serves... The latter was good for a .5 per lap difference...so much fun.....
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To adjust the rear diff you pop the I believe right side cvd out of the out drive and there is an adjustment screw in the out drive. Don't loosen to much though or it'll slip and burn up on u. I'll double check which side shortly to be sure. Also you don't have enough motor with a 5.5? How big is your track? Can you gear up any to gain more speed?
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Old 07-12-2014, 10:37 PM   #12746
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Adjustment screw head location on AE TC3/TC4 diffs...

Steel Diff - short side
Plastic Diff - long side

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Here is a link on Team Associated's website for all current TC4 manuals (http://www.teamassociated.com/manuals/TC4). The TC4 FT manual includes instructions on how to build plastic and steel diffs for the TC3/TC4.
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That being said, a TC4 factory team with the carbon chassis and all the rest would be MUCH heavier, which is the advantage of the Diggity car over any associated product, it simplifies the car and saves you a massive amount of weight.
Please explain how a diggity carbon fiber chassis is MUCH lighter then a AE FT TC4 carbon fiber chassis The diggity conversion is nothing more then a Factory Team TC4, so where is the weight savings coming from that you speak of

Just by looking at the chassis its obvious the AE version is lighter with most of the chassis cut out.


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The associated chassis itself looks lighter than the diggity designs chassis, but the weight really comes from the aluminum Camber link mounts, and center spline, on top of the heavy electronics that most people use.... It's possible to just use the diggity designs shock towers and 2mm top plate on the factory team tc4 to lose some weight, but you'll still need light electronics to make weight....The center spline weighs 19 grams, and I guess the camber link mounts weigh about 20 grams... After that, you'll be able to use a 310 gram battery pack, but it's much cheaper to use a lighter battery .....

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Bert your trying to save too much weight especially since a majority of tc4s race in USGT and VTA and for those that do run 17.5 or mod 16 grams overweight isn't going to make any difference.
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The associated chassis itself looks lighter than the diggity designs chassis, but the weight really comes from the aluminum Camber link mounts, and center spline, on top of the heavy electronics that most people use.... It's possible to just use the diggity designs shock towers and 2mm top plate on the factory team tc4 to lose some weight, but you'll still need light electronics to make weight....The center spline weighs 19 grams, and I guess the camber link mounts weigh about 20 grams... After that, you'll be able to use a 310 gram battery pack, but it's much cheaper to use a lighter battery .....
My FT TC4 race ready with heavy electronics, fan, motor heat sink and a shorty turnigy 4200mah weights 1330g. Not sure how light you guys looking for but 17.5 stock spec in my area is 1380g.
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