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Old 01-15-2012, 09:09 PM   #10411
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These are all good points, but I wanted to visually see the difference between the newer kits and the tc4, and that was the first visibly noticeable difference. My tc4 refused to compress the springs when making a turn, and would rather traction roll instead. Lowering the roll center that way, and by that much, should make the springs compress, and absorb the lateral energy better. Hopefully it will work because I have tried pretty much everything else....I dont know if anybody else has already tried it since I had to trim the rear shock tower a bit to fit the ballcup...That's with 5mm ride height, by the way.....
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:14 PM   #10412
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Also I thought that the springs compressed more with a higher roll center, but it seems to be the other way around, or so I've read.....
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:40 PM   #10413
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So I was curious and I pulled out my FT TC4 and Sakura Zero S

And on the TC4 the rear Upper camber links are basically level with no shims

The Front is angled towards the car by about 3mm Not sure if it's the same with the Tub chassis version

Also the Sakura has the same thing front and rear Level in the rear and angled to the car in the front but only by about 2mm and that's no shims front/rear

Now my TC4 likes to turtle if I hit a dot while cornering but the Sakura doesn't.

I'm running stock everything on the Sakura but it has a very flexible chassis (plastic instead of carbon fiber)
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:55 PM   #10414
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Did you have the batteries in them with 5mm ride height ? My Ft tc4 has two shims in the rear, and three in the front and the arms are sloping towards the center of the chassis: high roll center, which explains the tendency to rollover.... I have them sloping the other way now, and I'll have to test and see what that does, but when I try to push the car laterally now, with sticky tires, the springs compress more than before...
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:03 PM   #10415
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I run 6mm ride height in the front and 5.5 in the rear (for 25.5 no timing VTA Class)
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:32 PM   #10416
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I forgot about Vta...sorry... But it's another tuning option....
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:52 PM   #10417
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forgot that AE makes them and I have them in mine TC3's & TC4's LOL

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Anybody run 0-2 low roll center(no shims under the lower outside arms) front and back???? It seems to be the best way to really lower the roll center .... I am trying everything to stop traction rolling....
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I am running 00 in the back and 0 - .25 in the front (slight kickup)

Seems to be better. to further lower your Roll Center try raising up your Upper inside Camber links
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Says they're for nitro version of tc3. It I recall that nitro is 200mm wide. Won't those shafts be too long?
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Most run anti dive (0 - 0.050")in the front and anti squat in the rear(0 - 0.050"), but at least you have low roll center front and back... Good buddy, I have to test it out......
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Sorry I messed a Zero lol should read 0.025
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Says they're for nitro version of tc3. It I recall that nitro is 200mm wide. Won't those shafts be too long?
No, the TC3/TC4 and NTC3 use the same shafts, the ntc3 has longer diff hubs.

The TC3 Rally 200mm conversion uses longer axles #3889 or 3986.
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Old 02-04-2012, 04:17 AM   #10425
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hey, does anyone in here already succesfull with CS kit from yokomo? especially with CS kit from active?
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