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Old 02-27-2011, 09:30 AM   #9826
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VCS2 :NOT worth it if you ask me, even if it was half the price.

For roughly 80 bucks you can have the tamiyas which are the stallion of the class.

I for one have a strong preference for Xrays because of the externally adjustable piston. The hassle of unmounting, opening, emptying, refilling the shocks , pumping, setting rebound, etc...and having liters of oil on your hands has proven very dissuasive to play with damping and that's a shame since it's a very important parameter. I think the xray shocks could be a real help to increase anyone's setup skills in that area.

For us mere mortals their smoothness is very comparable to the tamiyas, they just look a little less bling. Oh, and the xray bottom o ring lasts about 5 time longer than the tamiya ones.

hope this helps !
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:38 AM   #9827
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Really don't have 80 bucks to drop on shocks. 15 for an upgrade kit is much more reasonable to me if they are easier to make even etc. For 80$, I can go to 4 more races at the local track, making me a better driver. To a teenager novice like me, I think that would be more important. But would putting Xray/Tamiya shocks on be that much an improvement over VCS2 shocks? And how much better would the VCS2 shocks be than the VCS?
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:39 PM   #9828
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Realistically I would not even bother with the upgrade. Just get the bleeder caps and build them the normal way.

Just Instead of screwing the cap on a little bit then pushing in the piston to remove the air. Tighten the bleeder caps all the way. Remove the screw and the. Bleed the air out that hole




Works great for me at I can get more precise shocks each time
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:07 AM   #9829
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If you're really beginnng, then I guess jdeadman's advice makes sense.

Just use the regular shocks , but use green slime on the O-rings and rod, that is really useful and makes a world of difference, no joke ! and for 3 dollars you're not risking much.
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Realistically I would not even bother with the upgrade. Just get the bleeder caps and build them the normal way.

Just Instead of screwing the cap on a little bit then pushing in the piston to remove the air. Tighten the bleeder caps all the way. Remove the screw and the. Bleed the air out that hole




Works great for me at I can get more precise shocks each time
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If you're really beginnng, then I guess jdeadman's advice makes sense.

Just use the regular shocks , but use green slime on the O-rings and rod, that is really useful and makes a world of difference, no joke ! and for 3 dollars you're not risking much.
Sounds good. I mean I'm not poor (obviously if I'm in this hobby! ), just don't have 100$ or so to drop on shocks.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:51 AM   #9831
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Hey guys. I'm still using the VCS shocks on my tc4. Should I upgrade to VS2 or VCS3 (though I couldn't find any upgrade kits, only full kits for two shocks @50$ each! )? What are the advantages to this? And also what do bleeder caps do/how do they work? Do you bleed the shock with the cap on and let the air come out the top?? Should I be using those? Thanks!!
VSC2 is a good upgrade. Personally I used them on my TC5 for the 2 years I ran it I only rebuilt them when I wanted to change the weight of the oil for tuning. I never leaked and they never changed from the day I built them. The advantages over the standard VCS is that with the upgrade you will have a bladder shock which is easier to build consistently and if you like zero-rebound (i do) you can get that with this upgrade. Also you don't have the time wear and tear of the VCS foam.

VCS3 does not have an upgrade because it is a completely different design. The body is new accepting a single o-ring with spacers and the seal is bottom loaded with an aluminum cap versus the top load friction plug of the VCS and VCS2. "Upgrading" to the VCS3 from a regular VCS does not retain any re-usable parts except for the ball cup.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:20 AM   #9832
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Sounds good. I mean I'm not poor (obviously if I'm in this hobby! ), just don't have 100$ or so to drop on shocks.
I stand corrected, the tamiya # 42102 shocks are more like 50 bucks :

http://cgi.ebay.fr/TAMIYA-42102-TRF-...item43a40d1189

Green slime is AE # 1105.

2.39 $ at tower hobbies.
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:07 PM   #9833
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VSC2 is a good upgrade. Personally I used them on my TC5 for the 2 years I ran it I only rebuilt them when I wanted to change the weight of the oil for tuning. I never leaked and they never changed from the day I built them. The advantages over the standard VCS is that with the upgrade you will have a bladder shock which is easier to build consistently and if you like zero-rebound (i do) you can get that with this upgrade. Also you don't have the time wear and tear of the VCS foam.

VCS3 does not have an upgrade because it is a completely different design. The body is new accepting a single o-ring with spacers and the seal is bottom loaded with an aluminum cap versus the top load friction plug of the VCS and VCS2. "Upgrading" to the VCS3 from a regular VCS does not retain any re-usable parts except for the ball cup.
Thanks for the explanation.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:49 AM   #9834
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The TRF are well worth the money

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tamiya-53571-421...item3cb520240c

Take your old shocks are put them up for sale on dirtoval.com. They are worth about $25 for the set in good condition.

Silky smooth Tamiya dampers for about $30, can't go wrong
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pulled the TC4 out and soldered up a new motor. I haven't touched an RC car in forever, looking forward to running this soon.





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Makes me wanna bring mine out for some asphalt fun...
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:26 AM   #9838
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HHMMM...brushed motor.. are we onto something new!!!!!
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:46 AM   #9839
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I have a newb question:

What is the best way to strap down a lipo in a TC4 chassis where the front battery strap mount has been removed? What have you guys done?

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Old 05-01-2011, 05:33 PM   #9840
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Anyone know of where there is a list of parts needed to upgrade a TC3 to FT TC4?

I have the TC3 and a CF TC4 chassis plate.

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