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Old 12-06-2006, 04:23 PM   #8851
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Can you post your setup. Also, is the car doing that on left AND right turns or just in one direction?
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Old 12-06-2006, 05:30 PM   #8852
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Thanks dotman
our track is a fast flowing, low to med traction asphalt.
its slowest corners are off camber as its situated on a slight hill..
the car steps out exiting a corner off power...(using 4 deg blocks with +3 front kick up wich is 7 deg castor)..tried castor to neg.(went 4mm spacers both front arm arm mounts) .and it stepped out into the corner off power...
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mikecatts, post your full setup and it might help everyone give you more solid advice...
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:01 PM   #8854
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Thanks dotman
our track is a fast flowing, low to med traction asphalt.
its slowest corners are off camber as its situated on a slight hill..
the car steps out exiting a corner off power...(using 4 deg blocks with +3 front kick up wich is 7 deg castor)..tried castor to neg.(went 4mm spacers both front arm arm mounts) .and it stepped out into the corner off power...
There are plenty more adjustments to check to see if it is OK. I would suggest putting it back to the kit setup, it works nearly everywhere. Then adjust slightly from there.

Fill out the set up sheet from the AE website, and people will have more idea to help you.
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:27 PM   #8855
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here it is.
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:50 PM   #8856
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That's almost the same setup i have. Except, change to 30 wt oil front and back and put blue springs on the front, 2 circle shims in the front, 2 washers under ball stud, square and x both 4 for the shims and no anti roll bar in the rear. the front suspension should be alittle stiffer than the rear. i would start with the oil and springs.
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:46 AM   #8857
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here it is.
Mike, I see you are from SA, I'm in NSW. With respect to the guys in USA, they would rarely run on tracks like ours. They refer to our level of grip and surface quality as parking lot style racing.
You seem to have radically stiffened the front of your car compared to the rear, only ever on foam tyres with good grip did I run that stiff.

Is the suspension balanced out? eg tweaked?
If you are struggling to get grip with 27's then take the 1 way out and run the diff instead, it will allow you to drive much harder into the corners. Also consider that you might be "cooking" the rear tyres, as it has been bloody hot recently. I've been using Sorex 36 and wanted to go to 40's.

I will send you a set up that I've been using at SMA in Sydney, also a low grip tight and twisty asphalt track sometimes quite dusty. My car is hooked up.
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:16 AM   #8858
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By the way, any of you guys got any photos of a TC4FT chassis set up with the factory team ducted cooling fans?

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Old 12-07-2006, 08:07 AM   #8859
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hi there

I need some help figuring this thing out. Can below TC4 parts fit onto a TC3 chassis?

1. front and rear Shock towers
2. diff case
3. front and rear chasis braces
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:37 AM   #8860
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I need some help figuring this thing out. Can below TC4 parts fit onto a TC3 chassis?

1. front and rear Shock towers
2. diff case
3. front and rear chasis braces
Yes they all fit onto the tc3
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:06 AM   #8861
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Thanks dotman
our track is a fast flowing, low to med traction asphalt.
its slowest corners are off camber as its situated on a slight hill..
the car steps out exiting a corner off power...(using 4 deg blocks with +3 front kick up wich is 7 deg castor)..tried castor to neg.(went 4mm spacers both front arm arm mounts) .and it stepped out into the corner off power...
If you oversteer during a transition to off-power (in other words as soon as you let go of the trigger), then you should think about slowing that transition of weight transfer down which means shock oil in the front - go up 5-10lbs.

If you oversteer after the transition to off-power (in other words a split second AFTER you let go of the trigger), then you should think about lessening the AMOUNT of transition which means going up a step on spring rate in the front.
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:21 PM   #8862
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Boomer, I'm grateful for your post. If you write a large collection of similar setup tips, please publish it well enough for me to find.

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Old 12-07-2006, 04:29 PM   #8863
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I think that a Yellow 35lb spring and 60 weight oil is a bit too stiff for a bumpy, outdoors aussie style track. From my experience anyhow.

This is what I have been using at our track, also have tested it with the Novak 3.5 Motor and it is still quite good. I have tried it with the 1-way diff and it has more turn in but you cannot stab the brakes into the tight corners as hard.

Sorry the PDF is too large?? PM if you want it.



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New question,
I'm thinking of getting Acer Racing bearings for my FT TC4. Do you think they will fit on the AE Beltcar? If only some fit, does Acer sell individual bearings?
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rcfordummies: F.Y.I. TC4 front steering blocks and rear hub carriers also fit on the TC3. The TC4 front steering blocks give you a second steering link mount location for more agressive ackermann settnigs, something that the TC3 steering blocks don't offer. The TC4 rear hub carriers don't have the hole for the grub screw that locks the hub carrier pivot bar, but a 1/2 drop of CA on the front and rear of the rear arm where the pivot enters and exits the axle is more than enough to keep it in place.

I run a TC3 and these parts and tricks work for me daily.

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I need some help figuring this thing out. Can below TC4 parts fit onto a TC3 chassis?

1. front and rear Shock towers
2. diff case
3. front and rear chasis braces
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