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Old 04-25-2006, 06:11 AM   #8371
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Old 04-25-2006, 10:51 PM   #8372
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Thanks Brent, you are a man of your word

I have already printed it out and have a question

1) Why Toe Out????

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I doubt it's toe out - it's more likely 3deg toe in (-3 deg)

toe out in the rear would make the car very VERY unstable - down the straight, entering a turn, mid turn, exiting the turn. It's pretty much never done, much like positive camber is never done or whichever caster is never done.

toe out in the front (small amount) can make the car more reactive on turn-in but also unstable at speed. toe-in makes the car more stable, but less reactive.
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Old 04-26-2006, 06:34 AM   #8373
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Boomer,

Check out the set up sheet it says toe out up front which struck me as odd as well hence the questions.

Brent,

If you can ask Craig the reason behind it that would be great.


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Old 04-26-2006, 09:25 AM   #8374
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I did look at it - didn't see any word saying toe out (but easily could have missed it. . . ) just the number "3"
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:47 AM   #8375
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Boomer,

Check out the use of the Square block up front instead of the circle for toe out. The comment is at the top of the page on the " Notes" line

Not sure how much toe out that would give?????

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Old 04-26-2006, 10:28 AM   #8376
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Boomer,

Check out the use of the Square block up front instead of the circle for toe out. The comment is at the top of the page on the " Notes" line

Not sure how much toe out that would give?????

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its toe-out in front... yea, yes it is...

the general consensus is that it provides more steering with a spool set-up... the tendency of a spool to push on turn-in is curbed a bit by the additional turn-in given from running toe-out front pins... i've never tried it so this is only going by what i've heard from those who have.

edit: note... if you're going to try this take note of the spacers craig mentions, this is to reposition the wheelbase so you don't shorten the car when angling the pins...
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:37 AM   #8377
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Boomer,

Check out the use of the Square block up front instead of the circle for toe out. The comment is at the top of the page on the " Notes" line

Not sure how much toe out that would give?????

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Using the square block should give you in-board toe out, or "arm sweep". I think it gives you more steering mid-corner. Looking at the setup sheet, actual toe out at the wheel is 0.
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Old 04-26-2006, 03:57 PM   #8378
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Using the square block should give you in-board toe out, or "arm sweep". I think it gives you more steering mid-corner. Looking at the setup sheet, actual toe out at the wheel is 0.

yup, thats what happens on the 415, arm sweep gives more mid to exit steering, but kills abit of inital. Think on guy described it like the AE active caster on the front of the 12th's or something.
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hey i just got the factory kit conversion, were do mount the aerial? has anyone got a close up pic?
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:49 AM   #8380
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There's a molded composite antenna mount that should have been included in the kit (came molded on the same tree as the spine plate mounts). It mounts on the top deck plate just above the steering servo with a couple small 2-56 button head screws. The FT antenna mount is p/n 31098 for reference.
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Old 04-27-2006, 02:27 PM   #8381
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na it wasnt ok cool thanks.
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:29 PM   #8382
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has anybody tried those new shock things that are out buy ae, to use the bladders in it?? (if they are even out yet )
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:40 PM   #8383
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they've been out for months, so popular they are always backordered... if you can get your hands on them they are awesome... i havent had to rebuild a shock or even think about one since i built my first bladder set ~3-4 months ago...
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:04 PM   #8384
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they've been out for months, so popular they are always backordered... if you can get your hands on them they are awesome... i havent had to rebuild a shock or even think about one since i built my first bladder set ~3-4 months ago...
o cool ill have to get them then.
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:10 PM   #8385
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They are great.. So much easier to build then the original ones.
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