300LikesTeam Associated TC4
10-22-2004, 10:34 AM
#812
Tech Adept
Originally posted by moonman
I think the TC4 isn't a real racing car. To me racing cars are made of alloy and carbon and not cheap plastic. Sure it performs well on the track but it dosen't look like a top level racing car and all the plastic make it feel toyish when looking at it. To me a nice quality looking car is important.
The trend now is towards carbon and machined aluminum type cars. So I think Associated really need to do something more with the factory team than putting on some composite chassis parts, titanium links and blue motor mount.
It seems to take some time before the FT is out so that might indicate that they are making som more changes but if they just put on the graphite parts that's a very cheap sales trick.
I think the TC4 isn't a real racing car. To me racing cars are made of alloy and carbon and not cheap plastic. Sure it performs well on the track but it dosen't look like a top level racing car and all the plastic make it feel toyish when looking at it. To me a nice quality looking car is important.
The trend now is towards carbon and machined aluminum type cars. So I think Associated really need to do something more with the factory team than putting on some composite chassis parts, titanium links and blue motor mount.
It seems to take some time before the FT is out so that might indicate that they are making som more changes but if they just put on the graphite parts that's a very cheap sales trick.
Surely the definition of a racing car is a car that can race competitively. I wouldn't be suprised if the TC4 takes a worlds championship this year and if it did then how could you not say it was a racing car!
I understand that if you buy cars like the Xray purely because they look nice on your pit table then the TC4 isn't for you. However on the track it is a fantastic piece of engineering. Who needs Carbon Fibre when you have non-tweaking graphite tubs?
Seriously though, to me cars can look nice or a bit plain but the prove is in the performance.
I can almost 100% gurantee that the FT version will be a graphite/blue alloy version of the Team kit. If you really have to have CF go buy a BMI chassis, I expect a TC4 version will come out anyway
Anyways get a decent bodyshell and your looks problem is solved.
10-22-2004, 11:03 AM
#815
Tech Initiate
Re: flame them if you want, but they....
Originally posted by Nightbreed
work and work well! I use 6 different foam densities in two sets to provide different dampening combinations. It's very easy, no messy oil and they are light. It works for smooth tracks, but outside on bumpy tracks it don't work well.
work and work well!
I use 6 different foam densities in two sets to provide different dampening combinations. It's very easy, no messy oil and they are light. It works for smooth tracks, but outside on bumpy tracks it don't work well.
The AE shock although a pain, work in ALL conditions.
10-22-2004, 11:03 AM
#816
The day they start making rc car for looks instead of performance will be the day I stop racing. Whether the tc4 or any other rc car is a racing car or not is a matter the definition of race car. We can argue all we want but it won't go any where. All I know is when they are making rc car base on looks and not performce will be the day I quit racing.
10-22-2004, 11:05 AM
#817
if ur batts are gettin hot enough to worry about some shoe goo, ur proberly over charging them.
i have shoe goo'd them together for years....no problems.
as far as the tc4 looking like a 'toy'...i dont care what the car looks like....it seems that all your interested in is the 'bling factor' i'd rather have an all black molded graphite car, than the aluminum battery strap, or aluminum hex hubs, or aluminum cvd's at that....simple fact, plastic/graphite is lighter than aluminum = faster
xrays are fast, and look nice, but u dont need pretty to be fast
AND, the car associated has out now (tc4) is not a factory team...it is a team car WITH threaded shock bodies, and, alot of parts that only came on the f/t version before
i have shoe goo'd them together for years....no problems.
as far as the tc4 looking like a 'toy'...i dont care what the car looks like....it seems that all your interested in is the 'bling factor' i'd rather have an all black molded graphite car, than the aluminum battery strap, or aluminum hex hubs, or aluminum cvd's at that....simple fact, plastic/graphite is lighter than aluminum = faster
xrays are fast, and look nice, but u dont need pretty to be fast
AND, the car associated has out now (tc4) is not a factory team...it is a team car WITH threaded shock bodies, and, alot of parts that only came on the f/t version before
10-22-2004, 11:06 AM
#818
Originally posted by Bob Barry
WHATEVA!!!! WE RUN WUT WE WANT!!! shoe goo on the batteries is an old school offroad trick. Packs dont tend to get as hot but they can bounce around some.
WHATEVA!!!! WE RUN WUT WE WANT!!! shoe goo on the batteries is an old school offroad trick. Packs dont tend to get as hot but they can bounce around some.
10-22-2004, 11:08 AM
#819
Tech Adept
Andy M
What I mean is that the racing car is the top level product from that company, their flagship product. If you look at other business segments they often makes a product for the masses but also a more exclusive version of that same product for the ones that want the best featuring better materials etc..
I mean that serious racers would wan't a more exclusive product. The TC4 is too much plastic for me. For a race car I would want machined parts for precision, carbonfibre parts for stiffness and light weight etc..
Besides how can it take one year (if the rumors are true) to get out the FT if it's just the same parts molded from graphite plastic.
What I mean is that the racing car is the top level product from that company, their flagship product. If you look at other business segments they often makes a product for the masses but also a more exclusive version of that same product for the ones that want the best featuring better materials etc..
I mean that serious racers would wan't a more exclusive product. The TC4 is too much plastic for me. For a race car I would want machined parts for precision, carbonfibre parts for stiffness and light weight etc..
Besides how can it take one year (if the rumors are true) to get out the FT if it's just the same parts molded from graphite plastic.
10-22-2004, 11:08 AM
#820
Sure I push my batteries as much as the next guy when running stock.
Have you ever run mod TC on carpet? Feel a battery after that work out and see how you feel about shoe goo. Low charge rate keep temp down then drain the hell out of it with a 9turn = hot hot
Have you ever run mod TC on carpet? Feel a battery after that work out and see how you feel about shoe goo. Low charge rate keep temp down then drain the hell out of it with a 9turn = hot hot
10-22-2004, 11:09 AM
#821
Originally posted by moonman
Andy M
What I mean is that the racing car is the top level product from that company, their flagship product. If you look at other business segments they often makes a product for the masses but also a more exclusive version of that same product for the ones that want the best featuring better materials etc..
I mean that serious racers would wan't a more exclusive product. The TC4 is too much plastic for me. For a race car I would want machined parts for precision, carbonfibre parts for stiffness and light weight etc..
Besides how can it take one year (if the rumors are true) to get out the FT if it's just the same parts molded from graphite plastic.
Andy M
What I mean is that the racing car is the top level product from that company, their flagship product. If you look at other business segments they often makes a product for the masses but also a more exclusive version of that same product for the ones that want the best featuring better materials etc..
I mean that serious racers would wan't a more exclusive product. The TC4 is too much plastic for me. For a race car I would want machined parts for precision, carbonfibre parts for stiffness and light weight etc..
Besides how can it take one year (if the rumors are true) to get out the FT if it's just the same parts molded from graphite plastic.
10-22-2004, 11:11 AM
#823
They will release the FT later to make more money of FT parts !! Alot of people running a Team TC4 will want to upgrade to FT specs so they will buy the parts costing them well over the amount a FT kit would cost.
I think the tc4 is sweet and looks sweet carbo fiber plate is just way to tweak happy for me
I think the tc4 is sweet and looks sweet carbo fiber plate is just way to tweak happy for me
10-22-2004, 11:13 AM
#824
i guess....mine werent that bad tho...only problem i had was those damn plastic diffs.... but thats another topic
but thats another topic