R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-19-2006, 02:11 PM   #8191
Tech Adept
 
S_fender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Dijon, France
Posts: 167
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by i.a.s
Have any of you guys used this #31136 Factory Team ITF Chassis Kit, for the FT TC4 any feed back would be good as may need to get this I wounder if the new tc4 will be shipped with this chassis.
Yes I have the ITF chassis kit and i found my car easy to drive and to adjust.
I try it on asphalt with rubber with the one way setup (and i modified it a few), without spine plate and the car is very easy to drive and really fast.
To my mind, it's a "must have" chassis for rubber race !

Last edited by S_fender; 03-20-2006 at 01:31 AM.
S_fender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2006, 02:12 PM   #8192
Tech Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Us of A
Posts: 20
Default

Quote:
I found with 50wt oil up front and 40wt at the back I couldn't get anywhere near the turn in I needed at my track. It's strange because I have a friend running a similar setup with a tub tc4
Are you using the chassis stiffeners on your TC4? If yes, that could be one reason why, because your chassis isn't flexing as much as the plastic tub chassis, and you woulden't be getting as much traction as him.

I find that when i run rubber tires, I have to remove the four chassis stiffeners and two of the screws from the top spine plate to gain enough traction.
JK41 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2006, 03:11 PM   #8193
Tech Regular
 
tc4kid191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: What is OUR world is coming to??
Posts: 465
Send a message via AIM to tc4kid191
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by i.a.s
Mine is the tub chassis but have a ft comming I just cant not drive a assosiated car maybe the others maybe quicker out of the box but I do belive that they are just as competative as each other I know people that cant get a good setup with the other so called great cars. Ive never had a real problem but I like to take it slow and really never change to much. I think you can gain more time in a race by learning the car and the track thats what I do and works for me. by changing things each round you never really know whats happening to the car with each setting change you need at least 3 or 4 runs to understand what is going on. The track is the main thing thats where you will gain time learn it.
Setup will be posted as soon a I can.

Cant wait to get my teeth into the FT TC4 sounds like a challange but hey that makes it all the more fun.
ALL cars are the same in the end....(4 wheels )
tc4kid191 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2006, 03:25 PM   #8194
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Near Cambridge, UK
Posts: 180
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JK41
Are you using the chassis stiffeners on your TC4? If yes, that could be one reason why, because your chassis isn't flexing as much as the plastic tub chassis, and you woulden't be getting as much traction as him.

I find that when i run rubber tires, I have to remove the four chassis stiffeners and two of the screws from the top spine plate to gain enough traction.
I've used all the combinations, and spent most of the time using just the spine or nothing at all. He runs his cells in the forward position so that'd make a bit of a difference. I've put 40wt oil in all the shocks now but with a #3 piston, so I'll see how that goes next meeting. I might try playing around with the roll centers too, but I'm only going to make 1 change at a time.

Whether I get on with the car or not, it's a good way to learn how to set a car up. Getting a different car and copying a perfect pro setup would just be boring wouldnt it
ralph_c is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 04:32 PM   #8195
Tech Rookie
 
egwugwuTC4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 16
Send a message via AIM to egwugwuTC4
Default

any of you guys have any creative ideas on how to make the TC4 faster?
i.e. bearings, shimming, new parts, shaving cases, special mods?
egwugwuTC4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 06:39 PM   #8196
Tech Addict
 
gacjr0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 726
Trader Rating: 15 (100%+)
Default

Taking just the rear posts out helped to gain rear traction and have less dartiness. (on carpet with foams)
__________________
-Dangerous with power tools-
gacjr0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 06:51 PM   #8197
Tech Master
 
koabich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Detroit Area
Posts: 1,360
Send a message via Yahoo to koabich
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by egwugwuTC4
any of you guys have any creative ideas on how to make the TC4 faster?
i.e. bearings, shimming, new parts, shaving cases, special mods?
The same stuff that worked with the TC3 works wonderfully with the TC4:
-IRS Composite Dogbones
-IRS Aluminum Layshafts
-IRS Aluminum Outdrives in the front and OE Plastic in the rear
-Bearings are pretty darn good in the kit, about the best factory bearings i've seen. I would recommend Acer Ceramics though.
-Acer Ceramic Diff Balls
-Acer Ceramic Thrust bearings
-Lightned Driveshaft (Check out Whip Racing...he has a thread here...really good stuff).
-The diff cases do not need to be worked but you still cannot/should not torque down all the screws that clamp on a bearing (diff cases, layshaft mount, etc.)
koabich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 07:13 PM   #8198
Tech Rookie
 
egwugwuTC4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 16
Send a message via AIM to egwugwuTC4
Default

thanks, ill try that stuff out
egwugwuTC4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 07:18 PM   #8199
Tech Champion
 
Scottrik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 6,122
Trader Rating: 238 (100%+)
Default

[QUOTE=egwugwuTC4]any of you guys have any creative ideas on how to make the TC4 faster?QUOTE]

Drop it off a cliff?

Install JATO rocket(s)?

You asked for creative...

Scottrik
whos TC3 is faster than he is anyway.
Scottrik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 01:45 PM   #8200
Tech Rookie
 
egwugwuTC4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 16
Send a message via AIM to egwugwuTC4
Default

when should you use a front one way or solid axle with the TC4? I race stock class on carpet with foams on a pretty large track, should i use a front one way?
egwugwuTC4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 01:53 PM   #8201
Tech Master
 
AM03GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Long Island
Posts: 1,007
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

my experience...

HIGH bite asphalt rubber tires - one-way
HIGH bite carpet rubber tires - one way
carpet foam tires - diff
LOW bite asphalt rubber tires - solid axle/spool
__________________
Associated // Reedy // Radiopost // XP Digital // Parma PSE // Integy
AM03GT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 04:23 PM   #8202
Tech Rookie
 
egwugwuTC4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 16
Send a message via AIM to egwugwuTC4
Default

Why not run a one way with foams on carpet? I race the stock class soi pretty much never break...
egwugwuTC4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 04:26 PM   #8203
Tech Master
 
koabich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Detroit Area
Posts: 1,360
Send a message via Yahoo to koabich
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by egwugwuTC4
Why not run a one way with foams on carpet? I race the stock class soi pretty much never break...
You are from michigan? Where do you run?

Always a diff. A one-way will be inconsistant and offer too much steering. It can be uncontrolable at times. If a one way was faster on carpet, more people would use them, none do.
koabich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 04:47 PM   #8204
Tech Master
 
AM03GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Long Island
Posts: 1,007
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

basically what koabich said...

the grip and traction with foam tires on carpet is already so high that adding a one-way would be overkill and cause more inconsistencies than it would benefits.
__________________
Associated // Reedy // Radiopost // XP Digital // Parma PSE // Integy
AM03GT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2006, 02:02 PM   #8205
Tech Rookie
 
egwugwuTC4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 16
Send a message via AIM to egwugwuTC4
Default

ahh, ok thanks guys, i race at CEFX and larrys mostly, and a couple other tracks once in a while
egwugwuTC4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Team Losi XXXS G+ with parts!! Team Orion V2 Hitec 5625 cola R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 9 06-18-2008 08:11 PM
BATTERIES - Team Orion 4200 SHO Team Cells (6 cell) packs................... For Sale 2-Bad Australia For Sale/Trade 0 03-21-2008 02:16 AM
New Items for Sale Tamiya F103gt Chassis Kit, Team Much More CTX-D, Novak, Team Orion Tsquare R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 14 04-17-2007 08:29 PM
>>> BRAND STINKING NEW NEVER RAN TEAM JAMMIN FACTORY TEAM FTE RACING BUGGY <<<< mach51 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 5 01-25-2007 09:13 PM
F/S Team Associated Factory Team RC18T with Mamba Comp X Brushless and Extras ZeroCool101 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 7 01-07-2006 01:54 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 01:32 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net

SEO by vBSEO 3.5.0