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Old 02-07-2006, 02:19 PM   #7921
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This a Good setup sheet to try?

http://rc10.com/racerhub/setup/racer...r_iic_2005.pdf
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:19 PM   #7922
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I struggled last meeting too and it got progressively worse throughout (I qualified 2nd in the A final though on my first qualifying run). My problem was the car felt really unpredictable and often it really didnt want to turn in. I'm fairly sure the problem was the servo saver, so make sure its cranked up pretty tight (I've just locked mine up now). It shouldn't be too hard to find a decent setup if everything on the car is built right and working properly. Make sure the front diff is still quite tight and the back is loose enough. If I'm struggling for grip the first thing I do is to remove the standoff's, spine or both.

ScottW - I run stock/19t carpet and broke two front plastic outdrives in the first two meetings (and I never crashed very hard - Its when you catch a track marker at anywhere near full lock). I'm now using Square RC delrin diff outdrives up front which work great. They're also slightly wider so there's no chance of the CVD's popping out. At the back the plastic outdrives are fine.
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:31 PM   #7923
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I was having the same problem with my car when i first got back into this hobby ,; sliding all over the place, traction rolling, it was pretty ugly....I was extremely frustrated. People were letting me borrow their tires, trying different compounds, etc...nothing worked. It wasnt until i told myself i was going to spend a day at the track and use a set up sheet that worked for a track similar to mine. This was Mike Blackstocks carpet set up for Snowbirds and i used a local racers setup sheet to make any minor adjustments. I decided to use that as a base to start from and go from there to suit my driving style.

The change that made the biggest difference for me was changing out the shock oil and springs. It seemed once I did that , it made a world of difference.

I dont know if you tried that but its what worked for me.
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:32 PM   #7924
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Do you think it may be that I was using Carbon Fiber shock towers on the Team Chassis? It seemed to pull out more on the Team chassis rather than on the FT.
a different shock tower shouldnt be the difference between a driveable car and a loose car... the carbon fiber one is stiffer, but as stated shouldnt make any kind of monumental difference...

stick with the full factory team chassis as it comes out of the box... on carpet i'd run it full stiff...
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:34 PM   #7925
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Im building the car right now, going to use that setup sheet I posted.
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Old 02-07-2006, 02:49 PM   #7926
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Im building the car right now, going to use that setup sheet I posted.
it should be a decent starting point... if its still sliding too much right off...

try lowering the dual rate to a 5ft turning circle...
try the silver front roll bar...
try adding damping and spring all around to #3's yellow, #3's copper...
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YES, I ran Associated shocks on my 415...perfect fit!
i wasn't talking about the entire shock, just the spring. or do you mean the spring too?
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Old 02-07-2006, 03:00 PM   #7928
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I think the springs fit tamiya shocks with the AE spring retainers at the bottom. A friendof mine has this setup.
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it should be a decent starting point... if its still sliding too much right off...

try lowering the dual rate to a 5ft turning circle...
try the silver front roll bar...
try adding damping and spring all around to #3's yellow, #3's copper...
Could that have been it? I did mess with the Dual Rate...
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Could that have been it? I did mess with the Dual Rate...
in a some cases too much dual rate allows the car to over rotate, because the wheels turn too much and you either get a push effect at high speed, or a crazy oversteer effect. turning the dual rate down allows the same timing at the steering wheel to produce a softer driving line...
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Reason I messed with it is because the wheels would barley turn alot, and one side would turn a bit more than the other.

Okay, that was pry why I was losing turning control...

Back to building...
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What is the best way to have less initial turn in on the FT TC4?
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What is the best way to have less initial turn in on the FT TC4?
it would help to post your racing surface and current setup...
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Racing foams on med bite carpet using pretty much the kit carpet setup,

no roll bars blue associated springs droop of 5, rideheight 5
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Racing foams on med bite carpet using pretty much the kit carpet setup,

no roll bars blue associated springs droop of 5, rideheight 5
FT TC4 or Team Kit...?
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