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Old 10-25-2005, 08:03 AM   #6871
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dawgmeat, what did you have to change to get the Tamiya shocks to fit?

I bought this kit:

Tamiya TRF Damper Special Edition Set (Blue)Part #: TAM49355

it comes with everything you will need including the Tamiya TRF Aluminum Shock Retainers, 2-hole pistons, 3-hole pistons and all mounting hardware. The top part of the shock will fit over the Associated Blue Alum. Shock Bushing, the brass ball stud may maybe a tad bigger than the A-arm shock mounting hole so when you go with the TRF your stuck with them. What I notice since putting them on, they don't leak, my suspension just feels smoother now.

1 more thing Ass. springs are a direct fit
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:38 AM   #6872
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all you guys spending big $$$ to buy TRF shocks should take a long look at the new AE VCS2 shock upgrade kit (#31123)... it converts your current FT TC4 aluminum threaded shocks into a diaphragm/bladder type shock. comes with everything you need, bladders, a new eyelet cap, blue aluminum cap retainer, a new internal "slug", downstop limiters, and a 2 piece rebound foam system to dial in different stages of rebound or you can build em for zero rebound. i've built 2 sets already and after you get all the air out of the oil, it takes about 5 minutes to finish em up.
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:51 AM   #6873
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And for the washers under the ball studs, what is the thickness of each washer? Are they the same washers used on the B4 and T4? I do not see a part number in the manual to use. Have seen a couple setups were they call for 3-4 washers, that just seemed liek a lot.

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Yes they are the same washers used on t4 and b4. (REF:9630)
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:53 AM   #6874
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ball stud washers are .030"
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:13 AM   #6875
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I tried losi rear hubs 1 with rubber tyres last week, with 2 X block and one-way setup given in the kit. Good feeling and better than standard rear hub with 3 X block. (It's a long track with fast corner). I put one silver shim under the hubs pivot ball.
Is that inner or outer hole on the losi hub?
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:20 AM   #6876
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Yes they are the same washers used on t4 and b4. (REF:9630)
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:26 AM   #6877
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Is that inner or outer hole on the losi hub?
Inner hole.
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all you guys spending big $$$ to buy TRF shocks should take a long look at the new AE VCS2 shock upgrade kit (#31123)... it converts your current FT TC4 aluminum threaded shocks into a diaphragm/bladder type shock. comes with everything you need, bladders, a new eyelet cap, blue aluminum cap retainer, a new internal "slug", downstop limiters, and a 2 piece rebound foam system to dial in different stages of rebound or you can build em for zero rebound. i've built 2 sets already and after you get all the air out of the oil, it takes about 5 minutes to finish em up.
I have not heard of these shocks. Are they out yet? Is there info on the AE site? They sound cool. What are the prices? So many questions
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retail is $16.99 , dunno what hobby shops are charging...

you use your existing shock parts, which if you buy a kit it comes with the stuff you need.

in kit (you need to have):
shock bodies/threaded collars
shaft shafts
pistons
shock end ball cup
spring retainer
springs


in the 31123 kit:
plastic eyelets (4)
blue aluminum cap retainers (4)
o-rings (8)
shock built tool (1)
diaphragm/bladder (4)
rebound foam large (4)
rebound foam small (4)
uptravel limiters (4)
detailed build instructions
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:48 AM   #6880
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UPTRAVEL LIMITERS?! OMG old skool returns AGAIN. SWEEEET.



I just wanted to say its great to see everyone helping out here. Its like a small family... anyone want a brownie?! My wifes cookin em up and man they smell goood.




I want to remind the guys that are new to R/C or TC in general that come here with this kit in hand and a few questions.... you do NOT need to buy expensive upgrades to be fast with this car. We talk here about buying this... and that... and yes all that blue aluminum is purty, but there is no substitute for practice. Its the only hop up you CANT buy. For you guys coming to TC from offroad, it is a totally different experience. I know, i did it myself. For some that love to "wheel" a buggy or truck, there IS going to be a learning curve, and it may not be pleasant. TC, especially on foams, is about setup moreso than being able to wheel and respond through bumps and over jumps. Now i am in no way saying offroad is easy, so dont get it twisted. TC will show you the best way to dial in a car for the given traction, both foam and rubber classes, and is easier to drive IMO than offroad. Its certainly cleaner. But it DOES require more maintenance and attention to detail in every aspect by comparison. I would say 12th scale is by far the "drivers" class... but the chassis arent designed to be "realistic" like TC, so TC gets the nod for scale realism and driving experience.



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Couldnt have said it better myself! I still have not gotten used to running a touring car. When the pressures on I tend to revert back to throwing the car through the turns like my buggy. Still working on that one. I am getting back into 1/12th scale so that should help me out a ton. And if any of you question the value of practice.....3 years ago we had a kid at our local track come out with a RC10. not a b2 or a b3...an RC10. This kid made the A every week and his dad eventually got him a B3. the point is he kept up because of practice. The ironic thing is that with the new car he wasn't much faster.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:39 AM   #6882
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... anyone want a brownie?! My wifes cookin em up and man they smell goood.
What are the shipping costs for Belgium
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:48 AM   #6883
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retail is $16.99 , dunno what hobby shops are charging...
AM03GT, where did you get the 31123 Shock kit and 31126 Battery Strap Kit?
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Old 10-25-2005, 12:02 PM   #6884
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AM03GT, where did you get the 31123 Shock kit and 31126 Battery Strap Kit?

Yeah! I want to buy that shock upgrade kit as well! Please post a link...
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Old 10-25-2005, 12:15 PM   #6885
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anybody know if tamiya TRF shocks will fit on the TC4?
I purchased the TRF shock kit. It includes ball ends for the shocks. While the threadded portion of these ball ends is a bit larger than the holes in the TC4 arms, you can screw them in. This is what I did. It does not seem to have weakened the arms and everything fits just fine.

Note that if you screw in the Tamiya ball ends, you can't go back to stock TC4 hardware unless you replace your arms and shock towers.

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