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Old 06-11-2005, 06:55 PM   #4951
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The Losi, Corally, and the X-Ray are also too expensive. And $350 will probably be the really low end of the price spread, mail order price level.

But think about it, $350 for an electric touring car, when a Serpent 710, a nitro touring car, goes for $330?
What's it matter if it's nitro or electric? Expensive material doesn't know a class.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:17 PM   #4952
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What's it matter if it's nitro or electric? Expensive material doesn't know a class.
At what point does it become too expensive? At this point 1/8 scale is starting to look cost effective.
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:55 PM   #4953
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At what point does it become too expensive? At this point 1/8 scale is starting to look cost effective.
1/8-scale buggies are the best value. 50+mph, crash at speed and wait for it to land on it's wheels without thought it's going to break. But also realize that on-road is very technical and percise where you pay for that .001 per lap.
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Old 06-12-2005, 09:55 AM   #4954
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How offten do you guys have to check and correct it? When I check it before every race, it's off. Most of the time it's off by a 1- 1 1/2 degree. My RPM ball cups seem tight. Is this something that changes often with tire wear?
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Old 06-12-2005, 12:03 PM   #4955
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RCknight: It might change a little with foam tires due to wear, but almost never changes with rubber tires. Im not sure why youd have to keep setting it though, that is a little strange.
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:01 AM   #4956
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I'm new to TC racing and have a small issue with my Team TC4. When I'm corning right or left the inside rear tire is lifting off the ground and scrubbing corner speed. Car works great otherwise but is loosing corner speed. Actually almost sounds like the rubber tire cars in the corners. This is running on high grip asphalt on a large indoor track w/Foams. Any help would be great:

Setup Front:
Piston 2 - Oil 70wt - Spring Yellow
Shocks 2nd hole Top & Inside Bottom
Camber Link 2nd hole from inside
1st on Upright w/4Washers
Caster Block #4 - 4 Washers - Silver Ballstud
Droop 5 - Camber 2 - Toe 0
No Circle or Triangle Shims
Arm Spacing All 3 Shims Back
Anti-Roll Car .063 Silver
Diff - 4.5-5mm Ride Height

Setup Rear:
Piston 2 - Oil 60wt - Spring Copper
Toe 2.0 - Camber 2 - Droop 5
1 X Shim - 0 Square Shims
Arm Spacing All 3 Shims Forward
Camber Link 1st hole on both
Shock 3rd hole top - Outside bottom

LRP QC2 Punch 5, Initial 2, Auto 0
ROAR Stock Motor, 767's, Red/Green
Tires = Twister 37 shore 26mm front 30mm rear
Paragon GFX Traction Compound
Running on Asphalt:
http://www.rcscrewz.com/SpeedwayPhotos/CARPETRACK2.JPG

Hopefully I covered all the bases, if anything else is needed please let me know.

Thanks!

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Old 06-15-2005, 06:14 AM   #4957
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Try increasing the rear droop and/or decreasing the front droop
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:46 AM   #4958
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Everything is in this Hobby is Overpriced! When is the last time you bought something and said to yourself. "what a good deal?"
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Old 06-15-2005, 07:25 AM   #4959
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dmatter life is over priced if you live in england you will know that!!!!
the b!@#$% goverment charge us for the air we breath
they tax us on what we earn.spend,save,council tax,bills,they even tax us on food and then when we die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so without sounding to fatherly like DEAL WITH IT LOL
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Old 06-15-2005, 07:40 AM   #4960
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Believe me RC does not have an exclusive on being overpriced!!
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:11 AM   #4961
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I'm new to TC racing and have a small issue with my FT TC4. When I'm corning right or left the inside rear tire is lifting off the ground and scrubbing corner speed. Car works great otherwise but is loosing corner speed. Actually almost sounds like the rubber tire cars in the corners. This is running on high grip asphalt on a large indoor track w/Foams. Any help would be great:

Setup Front:
Piston 2 - Oil 70wt - Spring Yellow
Shocks 2nd hole Top & Inside Bottom
Camber Link 2nd hole from inside
1st on Upright w/4Washers
Caster Block #4 - 4 Washers - Silver Ballstud
Droop 5 - Camber 2 - Toe 0
No Circle or Triangle Shims
Arm Spacing All 3 Shims Back
Anti-Roll Car .063 Silver
Diff - 4.5-5mm Ride Height

Setup Rear:
Piston 2 - Oil 60wt - Spring Copper
Toe 2.0 - Camber 2 - Droop 5
1 X Shim - 0 Square Shims
Arm Spacing All 3 Shims Forward
Camber Link 1st hole on both
Shock 3rd hole top - Outside bottom

LRP QC2 Punch 5, Initial 2, Auto 0
ROAR Stock Motor, 767's, Red/Green
Tires = Twister 37 shore 26mm front 30mm rear
Paragon GFX Traction Compound
Running on Asphalt:
http://www.rcscrewz.com/SpeedwayPhotos/CARPETRACK2.JPG

Hopefully I covered all the bases, if anything else is needed please let me know.

Thanks!

do you have the factory team TC4??????? or just the basic one????
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Nitro Boy I think your problem is tires. Try running 28 mm all the way around with a 43 front and 40 rear or 40 front and 40 multi ring rear. We do alot of foam tire on ashpalt racing up here in NJ/PA and I have always had better luck with the harder compounds.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:28 AM   #4963
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I did try increasing rear droop but never touched the front, I'll try that this weekend.

Sorry Team not Factory Team, my truck is a FT T4, like I said new to the TC scene

I had thought about going a 40 or so front tire just to see if the car would push a little. Maybe I'll try the 43/40 setup and see what it does...

Also I did turn the Dual Rate on my M8 down to 68% just to take a bunch of steering out of the car.

Thanks for the input!
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:33 AM   #4964
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Nitro-boy - I would put the stock shims back in the front - taking them out is more for carpet.

Otherwise - you're working on the same problem that I have been. We're close to the same setup (except for the shims)
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I did try increasing rear droop but never touched the front, I'll try that this weekend.

Sorry Team not Factory Team, my truck is a FT T4, like I said new to the TC scene

I had thought about going a 40 or so front tire just to see if the car would push a little. Maybe I'll try the 43/40 setup and see what it does...

Also I did turn the Dual Rate on my M8 down to 68% just to take a bunch of steering out of the car.

Thanks for the input!
where do you want it to understeer a little..entry or exit of corner?

try putting a #1 or #2 shim udner the O block.
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