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Old 01-14-2005, 01:32 PM   #2656
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do you think using the Losi steering knuckles gives better steering on a tight track than say changing the ball stud locations on the TC4 steering knuckles? Our track just got changed up. It's very tight now and I need the steering back.

One thing I see so many top drivers going to soft springs. I never run that soft and I wonder if I'm missing something.
I went to the Losi steering blocks for that reason-get more turn in and make car not feel so lazy around center. I had spaced my ballstuds forward which helped to address other issues too.

I got some of it back for sure by doing that. I also have not run anythng stiffer than a purple up front in a long time. And either red or copper in back.
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Old 01-14-2005, 01:57 PM   #2657
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Default Rayhung....

do you use swaybars since you run so solft? Do you run soft spring so you can mess with other tunning options like swaybars?

Anyone just use a rear swaybar to keep the car running flat on a tight track? I need all the steering I can get so I thought running a rear would keep the car flat without loosing front steering.
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Old 01-14-2005, 02:00 PM   #2658
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Default One more question...

about tire sauce. Ray do you try to set up car first without using it, then add if needed?
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Old 01-14-2005, 02:01 PM   #2659
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do you use swaybars since you run so solft? Do you run soft spring so you can mess with other tunning options like swaybars?

Anyone just use a rear swaybar to keep the car running flat on a tight track? I need all the steering I can get so I thought running a rear would keep the car flat without loosing front steering.
We are in the same boat RCknight. I run on a small tight track and Im stilling running stiffer springs as you said. And I am running the losi hubs with a rear swaybar. My car feels like its scrubbing speed horribly, especially through the sweeper, but I dont know what softer springs may do for it. I thought to get rid of it I would have to limit chassis roll, it seems by going softer than would only make it wors? I dunno, mabey someone else might.
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Old 01-14-2005, 02:02 PM   #2660
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I am not 100% sure why I gravitatide to such soft set-up-oh-yeah-Now I remember-I started running a buddies set-up.

ON a TC3 -I ALWAYS ran a sway bar-car was too inconsistent lap after lap without one-and i thnk slower.

YOu could try a rear sway bar-but I think it doesnt take a lot to make a TC3 loose as a goose-so it might be too much.

You might be better served to start changing to lighter front shock oil and mess around with taking away droop in the front first and then in the rear.

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Old 01-14-2005, 02:45 PM   #2661
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Default Baker springs and Ray

I noticed that on Bakers car at the Novak he was running the spring combo of copper/red. Does anyone know what weight oil and piston he was using.

Ray, so you really think going softer is the right direction? I am starting to think so as well. Last weekend made a couple small changes to the car. Made it a little stiffer and it had way too much steering and the rear end was extremely responsive. Way to responsive.

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Old 01-15-2005, 02:04 AM   #2662
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Default What about adjusting the diffs?

For a tighter track on med grip carpet, should you have a rear diff a little tighter to help push you around the corners. A few told me that you want to have a tighter front diff to help pull you throught the corners. I know this is good for low traction tracks to keep the rear from spinning out, but what is the right way on carpet? I know having a tighter front helps keep your ground when getting struck by another car.
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Old 01-15-2005, 06:20 AM   #2663
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wouldnt you want to run both diffs a bit looser to help your car "rotate" around the corner better?

i dont tend to mess with the front diff setting but on a larger track i run a tighter rear diff, on smaller tracks i loosen it a bit.
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Old 01-15-2005, 10:00 AM   #2664
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YOu could try a rear sway bar-but I think it doesnt take a lot to make a TC3 loose as a goose-so it might be too much.

I tried one on my car last week and it made the car really sketchy entering a corner (if that makes sense). I could drive the car, but I really needed to be up on the wheel to to it. Even when I went to the softest bar it was really touchy. I took it off, BAM, settled way down.
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Old 01-15-2005, 03:56 PM   #2665
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So, somebody post Baker's or Blackstock's setup from the Novak race already.
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Old 01-15-2005, 06:59 PM   #2666
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Default RR Toe-in without buying the Alu

I see above Gary, you replaced the rear square with the circle to achieve 2 deg toe-in on the rear.

What degrees will other combinations permit? Any ideas? or is this really the only other combination that will fit?


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Old 01-15-2005, 07:27 PM   #2667
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I picked up the graphite kit today hopefully will get to test it out on wed. I also hope that the BMI top deck will be unveiled this week.
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I picked up the graphite kit today hopefully will get to test it out on wed. I also hope that the BMI top deck will be unveiled this week.
Runnin, please keep me posted on how the Carbon chassis is...... also, under the Bmi forum, didnt Jason say that he had 8 top decks made? .. not sure though...

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Yea I really saw the flex in the plastic tonight at the track. We could bend the chasssis in our hands and watch the motor flex up out of place. Its got some serious issues but I will definately let you know. I already PMed jason about the upper deck, will have one by the end of the week hopefully.
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thats right guys,i have 8 in stock now and will be making more when my material shipment comes in.they are very rigid.i will post some pics on monday.unfortunately i have them at the shop.
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