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Old 11-29-2004, 10:22 PM   #1816
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My car is all carbon fiber -- chassis, arms, towers, everything.
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:46 PM   #1817
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This is the setup I ran to qualify 8th inMasters at the Cleveland US Indoor:

Front:
60w, number 3 pistons, white springs, outer mount top, inner mount on arms
front/front block flat on chassis, no spacers
front/rear block .050 spacer
6* C-blocks
0* toe-in
1.5* camber
camber links low and long

Rear:
40w, number 3 pistons, purple springs, outer mount top and bottom
use circle block instead of triangle mount for front mount
2* toe-in block rear (this gives you almost no toe-in)
1.5* camber
camber links low and long

Batteries in front

Tires, 2.25" double pink/orange, double pink

Parma Alpha

For me, this was a pretty good setup......not perfect but a good place to start. Since I only had the car a week before, I'm reasonably satisfied. Would have liked to get some laps in the main but got in the second turn pile up resulting in a broken steering block.

Any questions, just ask.
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Old 11-30-2004, 03:53 PM   #1818
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Skipster, Interesting that you had .5 in rear and no spacers in front. Quite a bit of difference. Any reasoning for the height in the rear compared to the front.
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Old 11-30-2004, 04:23 PM   #1819
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He has a .050 spacer on the circle mount on the front of the car for some anti-dive.

I have joined the steering block breaking club big time this past weekend. 2 TC4 steering blocks and when I ran out of those I broke 3 TC3 ones and then an arm. Never broke a TC3 steering block on a TC3. All of them were caused by driver clipping pipes or getting sideways in front of a field of Mod cars.
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Old 11-30-2004, 04:30 PM   #1820
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I have joined the steering block breaking club big time this past weekend. 2 TC4 steering blocks and when I ran out of those I broke 3 TC3 ones and then an arm. Never broke a TC3 steering block on a TC3. All of them were caused by driver clipping pipes or getting sideways in front of a field of Mod cars.

I belive that Square has some Alloy Steering Blocks for the TC4 in the works.... it might be next year Jan before they come out though
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2Fast4U2.........Jack Smash is right, that configuration gives you anti-dive which seems to be a common setup for high traction carpet on other types of cars as well. The antidive seems to give you the turn-in you are looking for without the suspension compressing and dragging the front corners of the chassis when running low ground clearance. It would also seems to keep the dynamic caster closer to the static caster.
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Old 11-30-2004, 08:33 PM   #1822
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This is the setup I ran to qualify 8th inMasters at the Cleveland US Indoor:

Front:
60w, number 3 pistons, white springs, outer mount top, inner mount on arms
front/front block flat on chassis, no spacers
front/rear block .050 spacer
6* C-blocks
0* toe-in
1.5* camber
camber links low and long

Rear:
40w, number 3 pistons, purple springs, outer mount top and bottom
use circle block instead of triangle mount for front mount
2* toe-in block rear (this gives you almost no toe-in)
1.5* camber
camber links low and long

Batteries in front

Tires, 2.25" double pink/orange, double pink

Parma Alpha

For me, this was a pretty good setup......not perfect but a good place to start. Since I only had the car a week before, I'm reasonably satisfied. Would have liked to get some laps in the main but got in the second turn pile up resulting in a broken steering block.

Any questions, just ask.
I assume you didn't put any spacers in the rear of the car and what about swaybars?
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Old 11-30-2004, 08:51 PM   #1823
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No spacers under the rear arm mounts, no sway bars. In the future, I will be trying both. The problem we encounter is the conditions(traction available) is almost never available while club racing. Swaybars were on my list of things to try, just ran out of time.
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Old 11-30-2004, 09:15 PM   #1824
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skipster- understand now. I misread the post. I saw the front/rear and thought none under the front and .50 under both rears. On mine I noticed that it has alot less rear traction compared to the tc3. Something I was not ready for. I am trying to get that taken care off. I am runing really small carpet track. I will be trying out some sway bars next time out. Its fast, just not as stable as my tc3. But that will come. Even with it on the portly side of the weight scale. When I get the 2 ounces off with the graphite kit, should be better.

Keep us informed about your learning as will I.
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Old 12-01-2004, 10:27 AM   #1825
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Can anyone tell me where to find shim kits for the TC4? I bought some for my Kids Radio Shack Cars. But I think I need a Couple more pounds of them for My TC4. I did a Set Screw set up in the Caster Blocks (like the TC3) But still very Sloppy.
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:15 PM   #1826
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Shims only take out some of the play. The problem is the hole is too big where the hinge pin slides through. You can fix that with CA but is a pain in the butt.


Skipstr, I know what you mean about the traction, it must have been unreal at Cleveland.
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:30 PM   #1827
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Off power push, but perfect on power steering, kit setup, no shims under rear camber links, 2 in front though, gold springs rear silver front 30wt rear 40 front 5 mm ride ht, batt front, 1deg total toe out, 1/2 deg neg camber anybody got a simple fix? thanks.
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:21 PM   #1828
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dmatter.....Several pages back in the sale swap section, there's a guy that sells high quality , very durable, dupont teflon shims in 5, 10, and 15 thousanth thicknesses.....Iv'e bought from him a couple times.......His prices are really fair also.........His E-mail is breiser652@aol.com Joe B
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Hi, any tips on a spool set up? Thanks in advance
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Old 12-02-2004, 05:20 AM   #1830
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how is the tc4 performing for u guys?
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