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Old 08-28-2014, 06:55 PM
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Well, I geared the motor down, timed it to the 4, and will give it a shot on Saturday. TQRC isn't a big track, maybe running a 17.5 at under 90mm of rollout is a good strategy.
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Originally Posted by Advil
The 17.5, 13.5 and all of the Mod motors are ROAR legal. Only the 21.5 was submitted late. We should have approval soon....

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I've been playing with the Team Powers (TPS) 21.5 motor and really like it. Only suggestion I have would be to put a temperature sensor in the motor so that ESC telemetry would record the motor temps. The TPS 21.5looks very much like the R1 motor on my Fantom dyno (very high RPM) except the TPS motor had a lower amp draw and accelerates faster. I know what FDR Smoke was using at the Texas EOS race and I think he was over geared. My testing indicates that If he used max timing and geared down, he would have been even faster - hard to believe he could have been even faster than he was.

Great motor, I look forward to racing it next weekend and at the 3rd EOS race in San Antonio.

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Originally Posted by John Wallace2
I've been playing with the Team Powers (TPS) 21.5 motor and really like it. Only suggestion I have would be to put a temperature sensor in the motor so that ESC telemetry would record the motor temps. The TPS 21.5looks very much like the R1 motor on my Fantom dyno (very high RPM) except the TPS motor had a lower amp draw and accelerates faster. I know what FDR Smoke was using at the Texas EOS race and I think he was over geared. My testing indicates that If he used max timing and geared down, he would have been even faster - hard to believe he could have been even faster than he was.

Great motor, I look forward to racing it next weekend and at the 3rd EOS race in San Antonio.
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How do you run 21.5 over there..blinky? and what fdr are you guys running etc?as have a race coming up that we need to run blinky so be good to get some set up advice as run TP 21.5 motor but currently boosted.
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How do you run 21.5 over there..blinky? and what fdr are you guys running etc?as have a race coming up that we need to run blinky so be good to get some set up advice as run TP 21.5 motor but currently boosted.
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We run blinky here on a pretty big open and flowing track. Straight was ~150ft with only one tight section at the EOS race. I'm told Smoke was using a 3.7 FDR and we ran a 12 minute main. I haven't had my car on the track with the TPS motor but I think he would have been faster with less gear. Don't know what your track is like so its hard to recommend a good FDR, but if you are running boosted, I'd add 2 or 3 teeth from that FDR. When VTA ran 21.5 motors I seem to recall the non boosted FDR at our medium sized indoor track was around 4.3 and with boost 6.5 to 7.0 depending on how brave you were with the boost. That may give you an idea of how much you may have to change your FDR, but in any case I wouldn't go with any less than a 3.7 ratio.
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Originally Posted by John Wallace2
We run blinky here on a pretty big open and flowing track. Straight was ~150ft with only one tight section at the EOS race. I'm told Smoke was using a 3.7 FDR and we ran a 12 minute main. I haven't had my car on the track with the TPS motor but I think he would have been faster with less gear. Don't know what your track is like so its hard to recommend a good FDR, but if you are running boosted, I'd add 2 or 3 teeth from that FDR. When VTA ran 21.5 motors I seem to recall the non boosted FDR at our medium sized indoor track was around 4.3 and with boost 6.5 to 7.0 depending on how brave you were with the boost. That may give you an idea of how much you may have to change your FDR, but in any case I wouldn't go with any less than a 3.7 ratio.
cheers for that..we have medium size track with a medium long straight and yeah have been told about 3.5 fdr for blinky so what you are saying sounds very close.Boosted I run 4.45 fdr and motor getting prity warm at that..90C
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Originally Posted by John Wallace2
We run blinky here on a pretty big open and flowing track. Straight was ~150ft with only one tight section at the EOS race. I'm told Smoke was using a 3.7 FDR and we ran a 12 minute main. I haven't had my car on the track with the TPS motor but I think he would have been faster with less gear. Don't know what your track is like so its hard to recommend a good FDR, but if you are running boosted, I'd add 2 or 3 teeth from that FDR. When VTA ran 21.5 motors I seem to recall the non boosted FDR at our medium sized indoor track was around 4.3 and with boost 6.5 to 7.0 depending on how brave you were with the boost. That may give you an idea of how much you may have to change your FDR, but in any case I wouldn't go with any less than a 3.7 ratio.
Who's smoke? Frankie runs a TP motor?
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John:since you are in this thread you are not talking about the new Actinium motors I assume....
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Originally Posted by JayL
John:since you are in this thread you are not talking about the new Actinium motors I assume....
He's talking about the actinium.
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Originally Posted by b20btec
Who's smoke? Frankie runs a TP motor?
Actually I meant to say Soap not Smoke - my bad! Frankie has been running the ORCA motor, but he has a new motor for EOS too.
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Originally Posted by JayL
John:since you are in this thread you are not talking about the new Actinium motors I assume....
yes I am. I know other here are also, are we in the wrong place?
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Originally Posted by John Wallace2
yes I am. I know other here are also, are we in the wrong place?
I was just making sure
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Is it a fair observation that the Actinium is highest-revving 17.5 I have ever owned? This thing just seems to want to run the sort of rollout you would slap on a typical 13.5.
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Originally Posted by DesertRat
Is it a fair observation that the Actinium is highest-revving 17.5 I have ever owned? This thing just seems to want to run the sort of rollout you would slap on a typical 13.5.
Possibly, but I've typically seen closer to low 4 rollouts, so not exactly 13.5 numbers.
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Originally Posted by erchn
Possibly, but I've typically seen closer to low 4 rollouts, so not exactly 13.5 numbers.
think you mean low 4 FDR, right ?


low 4 rollout would be amazing
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