Serpent S411
#4201
Anyone know if the original shocks would be considered "emulsion" type shocks?
FYI, I have run the plastic Xray diff gears (10 tooth) in the Serpent gear diff without issues as well, although the Exceed gears feel a little better.
FYI, I have run the plastic Xray diff gears (10 tooth) in the Serpent gear diff without issues as well, although the Exceed gears feel a little better.
#4203
Last word from Martin was that he had taken on a big work project that was taking him away from RC for quite some time.
BTW are you doing the IIC this year?
Thanks
#4205
Hi Jim, I know nothing of emulsion type shocks, but thinking of the TC5 type shock that used the cartridge, I thought this was similar to the serpent older shock, although, I have no idea how the air gets into the TC5 shock to create the emulsifaction? If you know please enlighten me.
After reading the Associated build info on the B44 shocks, I see that it has nothing to do with the cartridge design, my bad.
Last word from Martin was that he had taken on a big work project that was taking him away from RC for quite some time.
BTW are you doing the IIC this year?
Thanks
After reading the Associated build info on the B44 shocks, I see that it has nothing to do with the cartridge design, my bad.
Last word from Martin was that he had taken on a big work project that was taking him away from RC for quite some time.
BTW are you doing the IIC this year?
Thanks
Thats just it, always looking for that killer shock setup, so maybe there is something better than the TRF's too, although I see that they where playing around with emulsion shocks on their cars as well...............always looking
#4208
Its not the shock design issue as much as a certain feel that I'm looking for on the shock, so even though TRF has a nice shock and I believe with the nylon pistons the RCM (or the RCXX) shock can be made just as smooth, its the actual dampening and rebound feel that I'm looking for. So I'm starting to look at other alternatives, one being, emulsion type shocks, don't know much about them, but perhaps worth looking at. I dunno?
Did you get a chance to test out your servo mount yet? My version of the low mount is hanging on pretty well so far. We had a track change on Weds that I didn't make it out to, but raced on Sunday, so needless to say, I put it through some pretty high stress tests, without failure. LOL
#4209
I looked at those as well, interesting design, the only advantage I see with them is the support at the top and bottom so there is very little rod deflection during the extreme stroke of the shock. I think those would be a good application if one where getting into some very heavy shock oil setups, where the drag force of the piston begins to put uneven pressure on the shaft, or different sized holes in the same piston.
#4210
Tech Master
iTrader: (10)
I always run my cars with a 1mm spacer behind the shock, top and bottom, so I would think what your describing would be perfect.
Its not the shock design issue as much as a certain feel that I'm looking for on the shock, so even though TRF has a nice shock and I believe with the nylon pistons the RCM (or the RCXX) shock can be made just as smooth, its the actual dampening and rebound feel that I'm looking for. So I'm starting to look at other alternatives, one being, emulsion type shocks, don't know much about them, but perhaps worth looking at. I dunno?
Did you get a chance to test out your servo mount yet? My version of the low mount is hanging on pretty well so far. We had a track change on Weds that I didn't make it out to, but raced on Sunday, so needless to say, I put it through some pretty high stress tests, without failure. LOL
Its not the shock design issue as much as a certain feel that I'm looking for on the shock, so even though TRF has a nice shock and I believe with the nylon pistons the RCM (or the RCXX) shock can be made just as smooth, its the actual dampening and rebound feel that I'm looking for. So I'm starting to look at other alternatives, one being, emulsion type shocks, don't know much about them, but perhaps worth looking at. I dunno?
Did you get a chance to test out your servo mount yet? My version of the low mount is hanging on pretty well so far. We had a track change on Weds that I didn't make it out to, but raced on Sunday, so needless to say, I put it through some pretty high stress tests, without failure. LOL
#4211
Tech Adept
You can create an emulsion type shock simply by cutting the bladder on the rcm shocks(retaining just the outer ring, much like an oring). And using shock tops with no hole drilled. The cavity in the top should contain some air as you bleed the shock, and will mix once the shock is pumped a few times. In offroad this is preferred on smoother tracks, where bump damping isn't as much a concern. In my experience, the rebound will be a bit slower. Just be sure to bleed fully, as hydro-lock is possible with too much oil.
#4212
Tech Master
iTrader: (23)
Hi Jim, I know nothing of emulsion type shocks, but thinking of the TC5 type shock that used the cartridge, I thought this was similar to the serpent older shock, although, I have no idea how the air gets into the TC5 shock to create the emulsifaction? If you know please enlighten me.
Last word from Martin was that he had taken on a big work project that was taking him away from RC for quite some time.
BTW are you doing the IIC this year?
Thanks
Last word from Martin was that he had taken on a big work project that was taking him away from RC for quite some time.
BTW are you doing the IIC this year?
Thanks
#4213
You can create an emulsion type shock simply by cutting the bladder on the rcm shocks(retaining just the outer ring, much like an oring). And using shock tops with no hole drilled. The cavity in the top should contain some air as you bleed the shock, and will mix once the shock is pumped a few times. In offroad this is preferred on smoother tracks, where bump damping isn't as much a concern. In my experience, the rebound will be a bit slower. Just be sure to bleed fully, as hydro-lock is possible with too much oil.
That's all I've managed to take off this year as well......makes for a long summer, if not IIC maybe the Birds.........
#4214
Gary,
Can you share your current carpet setup for your S411? Are you running the v2 motor mount and 2.5mm chassis, as well have you upgraded the diffs and shocks too?
Have you got the car where you want it and consistent? I remember some of the struggles we where having at the Regina leg of WCICS last year.
Warren
Can you share your current carpet setup for your S411? Are you running the v2 motor mount and 2.5mm chassis, as well have you upgraded the diffs and shocks too?
Have you got the car where you want it and consistent? I remember some of the struggles we where having at the Regina leg of WCICS last year.
Warren