16LikesSerpent S411
08-02-2012, 03:29 AM
#3947
Hi Tim and others.
Because the Serpent and the HPI spring have nearly the same rate, you can't say, that they are equal. The Serpent springs are 23 mm high, the HPI 26 mm. The Ride springs are 25 mm and the Tamiya springs 27 mm.
Many racers uses the HPI or Ride outdoors and the Tamiya indoors. I like the Ride outdoors, as the spring rates are pretty close. You can fine tune your car. At the WC we used Ride red in the front and Ride blue in the rear - rated 16,9 and 16,1.
I have made a spring and gearing chart. You can find it in the Serpent forum - page 4 under S411.
Because the Serpent and the HPI spring have nearly the same rate, you can't say, that they are equal. The Serpent springs are 23 mm high, the HPI 26 mm. The Ride springs are 25 mm and the Tamiya springs 27 mm.
Many racers uses the HPI or Ride outdoors and the Tamiya indoors. I like the Ride outdoors, as the spring rates are pretty close. You can fine tune your car. At the WC we used Ride red in the front and Ride blue in the rear - rated 16,9 and 16,1.
I have made a spring and gearing chart. You can find it in the Serpent forum - page 4 under S411.
But this weekend i want to try a harder spring and see what the difference is as i have only tried the softer silver springs.
08-02-2012, 04:29 AM
#3948
Tech Apprentice
08-02-2012, 05:02 AM
#3949
Excellent. Serpent make a few different size spurs and i see in your original chart you have 10 spur sizes and 16 pinions so I will add a couple of sizes inbetween that are available from panaracer and arrowmax as well. If you could do pinions from 19 to 35 and the following spurs, 69, 72, 75, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 84, 87 that would be awesome. Regards Benzaah
08-02-2012, 05:27 AM
#3950
Tech Apprentice
Excellent. Serpent make a few different size spurs and i see in your original chart you have 10 spur sizes and 16 pinions so I will add a couple of sizes inbetween that are available from panaracer and arrowmax as well. If you could do pinions from 19 to 35 and the following spurs, 69, 72, 75, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 84, 87 that would be awesome. Regards Benzaah
I laminate the chart. Then you can have it on your desk while your fix your car.
08-02-2012, 09:00 AM
#3951
I believe 84t is the largest 48p you can use. I currently have an XRAY 84t 48p on mine and it is dead level with the bottom of the chassis..... One more tooth and it would protrude (even if only .1mm). This is with the 2.25mm chassis.
Just a heads up
didn't notice this until after I ordered a handful of 87t 
Just a heads up
didn't notice this until after I ordered a handful of 87t
08-03-2012, 12:05 AM
#3955
Tech Apprentice
08-03-2012, 12:37 AM
#3956
See you next sunday, I´ve ditched the Corally and looking forward to be much more competitive with Serpent.
08-03-2012, 05:55 AM
#3958
Some extra spring rates from asso,yokomo,xray, shumacher
08-03-2012, 06:09 AM
#3959
Tech Apprentice
Nice - you will not be disappointed. S411 is a lovely car. Look forward to the race in Glostrup. We will start with the setup from the WC - maybe change the suspension block in the rear to 2,5 or 3,0. We will see how it work. You can find the setup on the Serpent site. It worked great in Heemstede.
A 64 dp chart for modified you can find either here some pages back or on the Serpent Forum site under S411 pages 4.
08-03-2012, 06:13 AM
#3960
Tech Apprentice
Sure - I could do it, but I will not search for the rates. If you give me them, I will fill them into my chart.
You could also send me a PM with your e-mail address, and then I will send you the Excel file. You can then fill in the rates, you want.
You could also send me a PM with your e-mail address, and then I will send you the Excel file. You can then fill in the rates, you want.