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Old 12-20-2011, 09:26 PM   #2146
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I am looking forward to building them this week and trying a bunch of setups this weekend.

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Old 12-21-2011, 03:29 AM   #2148
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How are you guys finding the more flexible upper deck?
top deck 2mm
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top deck 2mm flex
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stock top deck is 2,5mm
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I think Martin is asking, of the people who have them, what is the car doing differently. Positively or negatively.

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The same Matt Howard that was "getting crazy with the cheese wizz"

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Old 12-21-2011, 03:57 AM   #2151
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stock top deck is 2,5mm
Stock top deck is 2mm.
2,5mm top deck is an option part.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:59 AM   #2152
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I think Martin is asking, of the people who have them, what is the car doing differently. Positively or negatively.

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the car become too stable with 2mm top deck on carpet track, less responsive
haven't tried it on asphalt track

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Stock top deck is 2mm.
2,5mm top deck is an option part.
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The same Matt Howard that was "getting crazy with the cheese wizz"

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Beck is awsome

Anyway, probably won't get my car in time for this weekend so I'll have my maiden run the 31st at Mikes hobbyshop here in Dallas, home of the 2012 carpet nats They've got a group of 3-4 guys that are really fast so I'll be able to tell right away if I'm on pace or not
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:21 AM   #2154
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thanks re: the upper deck.

Yeah from my measurements the stock deck is 2mm. Has anyone tried using the stock upper deck with just the four corner screws holding it in place to increase flex?

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Old 12-21-2011, 08:31 AM   #2155
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thanks re: the upper deck.

Yeah from my measurements the stock deck is 2mm. Has anyone tried using the stock upper deck with just the four corner screws holding it in place to increase flex?

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Martin Crisp, if you are looking for more flex I would try running the optional motor mount or the new flex upper deck. You could also try cutting the rear cross section on the stock upper deck. I've tried all of these things and found that a combo of the optional motor mount with the cut upper deck works best in low bite situations (on pavement). Have not tried this on carpet yet. Question, what thickness chassis did you get (bottom plate)?
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I have a car for sale brand new,

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For me the best with the standard deck was when I tightened the most outer screws very gently, just enough not to loose them and removed the screw from the motormount. With the new flex topdeck the car felt better with all front screws tightened normally (but I left the most outer rear ones "loose"). This was on a low grip carpet track with CPX tires. On a very high grip carpet track where griproll was an issue the optional 2.5mm deck was better than the standard 2.0mm version, the car was more consistent, lot better in chicane and if pushed it rather steped out in the rear than griprolled, but this happened at speed where the car would have been on roof already with the standard 2.0mm deck.

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Yeah from my measurements the stock deck is 2mm. Has anyone tried using the stock upper deck with just the four corner screws holding it in place to increase flex?

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Martin Crisp, if you are looking for more flex I would try running the optional motor mount or the new flex upper deck. You could also try cutting the rear cross section on the stock upper deck. I've tried all of these things and found that a combo of the optional motor mount with the cut upper deck works best in low bite situations (on pavement). Have not tried this on carpet yet. Question, what thickness chassis did you get (bottom plate)?
Martin I would agree with both of the above. On a 2.25 chassis I actually prefer the one piece mount which then allows you to do the 4 screw or not use the middle screw without taking the spur gear out. Not sure why but the one piece just feels better on the car. I have not tried a cut top deck on carpet either.

Teach, he said he got one of each car and we know the LE comes with the 2.25 chassis, I'd guess the other is the 2.50 chassis since it was only being changed out by some shops in Europe on request, (not really a option kit as I understand) But I could be wrong, just idle chatter waiting for the real answer as everyone else.
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Beck is awsome

Anyway, probably won't get my car in time for this weekend so I'll have my maiden run the 31st at Mikes hobbyshop here in Dallas, home of the 2012 carpet nats They've got a group of 3-4 guys that are really fast so I'll be able to tell right away if I'm on pace or not

The same Matt Howard that got together with Bubba and Squid and got that cow out at Dells farm, and..........ooooppps wrong Matt Howard.

Anyways if I remember correctly at Mikes, if you're not getting a lot of traffic on the track you might want to consider my short rear link setup, it really helps the side bite or kickout of the car on situations like that. Just use the short link with 2mm inner and outer, and Jeffs setup for the rest of the car.
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