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Old 12-15-2011, 01:36 PM   #2071
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its the one under the suspension bracket, they also call it suspension spacer
Just so I understand...this is underneath the hinge pin blocks, which in this case will cause a huge amount of antidive?
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:45 PM   #2072
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Hi Eveyone,

After being an independent for the past year while running an xray, I will be joining the Serpent Team. Can't wait for Paul to send me my cars and start to figure out this car. I was impressed with this 411 when it first came out and have been thinking about this for a while now. It looks like it is very strong and has a good design.

I look forward to learning more about this car and hopefully getting some good results.

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Congrats Martin! I look forward to seeing you kick some ass with s411!
Will Paul be sending you Limited Edition, or regular s411's?
So I guess your Xray's are for sale now!

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Old 12-15-2011, 02:43 PM   #2073
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Hi Martin, the 4.5 spacing is only 0.5mm antidive, the sum of the 4mm spacer with a 0.5 added for the antidive. The 4 is required if you run the 1mm spacer under the front bridge, obviously as you add or subtract from the front the rear will require the same amount to be added or subtracted to keep the arms level. Example, if no spacer in the front a 3mm is required in the rear for level arm.

The setup sheet could use a little refining to take advantage of options and settings that are used but no place to document, not sure who to talk to about that though.
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Martin Crisp...driving a Serpent...yes!!!! Congrats Martin, hope you can figure out a killer setup for the rug...
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:26 PM   #2075
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Congrats Martin! I look forward to seeing you kick some ass with s411!
Will Paul be sending you Limited Edition, or regular s411's?
So I guess your Xray's are for sale now!

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I asked for one of the LE and one of the standard. I thought it would be good to have one of each. Also that way, I won't make the mistake of of putting down the mod car in the 17.5 class Well maybe I wil.

Yes the xrays were for sale...sold to Mike Haynes and a friend of his. I ship them out tomorrow.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:27 PM   #2076
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Martin Crisp...driving a Serpent...yes!!!! Congrats Martin, hope you can figure out a killer setup for the rug...
Thanks Teach! I am sooo looking forward to building and running the car! I am sure we will figure out a killer setup for the rug!!!

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Hi Martin, the 4.5 spacing is only 0.5mm antidive, the sum of the 4mm spacer with a 0.5 added for the antidive. The 4 is required if you run the 1mm spacer under the front bridge, obviously as you add or subtract from the front the rear will require the same amount to be added or subtracted to keep the arms level. Example, if no spacer in the front a 3mm is required in the rear for level arm.

The setup sheet could use a little refining to take advantage of options and settings that are used but no place to document, not sure who to talk to about that though.
Thanks Johnny....I think it will make sense once I build the car

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Thanks Teach! I am sooo looking forward to building and running the car! I am sure we will figure out a killer setup for the rug!!!

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4 hours later this is what takes shape!!!! this is for a local racer that loved the way mine drove.. enjoy.. jeremy
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Welcome Martin,

I had the pleasure of watching you do "your thing" at Roar asphalt nationals last year at Norcal. You had some great runs. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

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Martin,

The hinge pin block in the front lays down flat against the chassis. The rearward block for the front of the car is flipped upside down. This is done for belt clearance. So you need 3mm shim under the rear front block if nothing is under the front front block. This would create the lowest hingepin and it would be flat. If you were to put a 1mm under the Front, front block and still want a level hingepin then you would need 4mm under the rear front block. So when he put 4.5 under the rear, if he also had 1mm under the front then he had .5mm anti-dive. Does that make sense?

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Hey, I just ordered the 1 piece motor mount for my S411's. What should I expect to gain over the old mount?
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Hey, I just ordered the 1 piece motor mount for my S411's. What should I expect to gain over the old mount?
stiffer rear part
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Hmmm, not sure if stiffer is what I really need, already running the 2.5 chassis.
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Hmmm, not sure if stiffer is what I really need, already running the 2.5 chassis.
I think jonny wishbone said this gives you more chassis flex and more tuning adjustabileity. It should be a nice addition.

FYI, I may be at the track next Wednesday and have just received a 3.5 rear block I was going to install. If you want to give it a try first your more then welcome, as I know your much more consistent than I am.. Any how let me know.
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