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Old 11-07-2011, 08:14 AM   #1651
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DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH SPURS STRIPPING WITH THE TWO SCRES REMOVED ON THE REAR UPPER DECK? I REALLY LIKE THE MOD. LOOKS LIKE THATS HOW IT CAME OUT OF THE BOX.

ARE YOU ON CARPET OR BLACKTOP WITH THE CAR?
I only managed to get a few runs today, so far the spur held fine. My track is asphalt parking lot, not quite understand what u mean by blacktop....
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Chassis mod pics....took from my phone's camera, the white film is chassis protector. If my 2.25mm chassis arrive this week maybe I ll try it stock first and if it doesn't work I mod it like this too. At least this cut really worked at my local track (parking lot asphalt, low - med grip).

Note: On the upper deck, I only use 4 rear screws and at the front only 2 screws.
id like to see a closer top view of your car, around your motor and battery area regarding the top deck clearance. the box setup has more flex than an Xray, just maybe battery height and motor clearance is preventing it flexing to its full potential. ? you will notice a big change with the 3.5 rear toe bracket.
glad your getting it sorted.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:42 AM   #1653
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I HAVE RUN BOTH THE STOCK 2.5MM AND THE 2MM CHASSIS ON A SMALL TRACK (ITS ABOUT 40X70FT TRACK), LOW TRACTION BRAND NEW CARPET, INDOOR OF COURSE. TRACK TEMP IS RIGHT AROUND 50-60 DEGREES.

I REALLY LIKE THE FULL 2MM SETUP. UPPER DECK AS WELL. THE CAR FEELS PLANTED LIKE NEVER BEFORE. NO TRACTION ROLL. WITH THE 2.5MM CHASSIS AND DECK, MY LAP TIMES INCREASED BY .3S. SO I WENT BACK TO THE 2MM.

I'VE DONE MOST OF THE MODS ON HERE EXCEPT THE CHASSIS CUTTING.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO TRY MY SETUP WITH THE 2MM CHASSIS AND 2MM DECK:
FR SHOCK POSITION 4
RR SHOCK POSITION 1. SOMETIMES 2 DEPENDING ON TRACTION
REAR ARMS CENTERED. STOCK ARMS
FRONT ARMS SAME
LOW FRICTION BELTS.
1MM SHIM UNDER REAR INSIDE BALL STUD. (CAMBER LINK)
3MM SHIM ON REAR HUBS
2MM SHIM FRONT INSIDE BALL STUD (CAMBER LINK)
NOTHING ON C-HUBS
YELLOW SPRINGS FRONT
WHITE SPRINGS REAR
50WT OIL FRONT SHOCK OUTER LOWER HOLE
35WT OIL REAR SHOCK OUTER LOWER HOLE
USE THE THINNEST OIL YOU CAN BUY OR HAVE IN THE REAR DIFF. WD40 OR BEARING OIL WORKS WELL. IM USING LUCAS GUN OIL. HILLBILLY BUT IT WORKS. TRUST ME....
3.5 DEGREE REAR BLOCK WITH THE 0 DEGREE STOCK BLOCK 1MM SHIMS UNDER
STOCK TOE BLOCKS UP FRONT 1MM SHIMS UNDER
1MM SHIM UNDER BOTTOM SHOCK MOUNTS ON ALL A-ARMS. THIS ALIGNS THE SHOCKS BETTER WITH THE SHOCK TOWER.
STOCK SWAYBARS F AND R
NO WEIGHTS (CAR IS WITHIN 1-2 GRAMS ALL THE WAY AROUND)
2 DEGREES CAMBER REAR
1.5ISH DEGREES CAMBER FRONT
0 DEGREES FRONT TOE
SPOOL IN FRONT. I HAVE USED MY EXTRA SERPENT GEAR DIFF UP FRONT WITH 300K OIL, MUCH MORE STEERING. UP TO YOU ON THAT.....
TI-NI SHOCK SHAFTS
I DID THE STEERING MOD TO REMOVE THE SLACK AND 1MM SHIMS UNDER OUTER STEERING TIRODS.
IM USING THE TWO SCREWS CLOSEST TO THE SPUR ON THE UPPER DECK, AND THE TWO SCREWS TOWARD THE REAR OF THE CAR. THE 2 INBETWEEN THOSE ARE REMOVED.
LTC-R REGULAR WEIGHT BODY


NOTE, IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT USING CA GLUE TO SEAL THE EDGES OF YOUR CHASSIS CHANGES THE FLEX. MY 2.5MM WAS GLUED, THE 2MM IM USING WAS NOT.


IF YOU TRY THESE, LET ME KNOW HOW IT WORKS FOR YOU.


I CAN EMAIL PICS IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE ANYTHING.

SINCE THE INDOOR SEASON OPENED 5-6 WEEKS AGO, THIS SETUP HAS BEEN UNCHANGED. I HAVE NOT MISSED A TQ NOR AN AMAIN WIN. THE CAR IS VERY CONSISTENT AND GOES ANYWHERE YOU PUT IT. EVERY MAIN I HAVE RUN WITH IT THIS SEASON, I HAVE WON BY AT LEAST ONE FULL LAP OF THE #2 GUY. WE RUN BLINKY 17.5.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:44 AM   #1654
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DAMEETZ,

I LIVE IN PODUNK MICHIGAN. EVERYONE CALLS IT BLACKTOP. LOL. ASPHALT.
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I PM'ed RC Martket and he said Mid-November...

Great News! Thanks!
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:03 AM   #1656
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DAMEETZ,

I LIVE IN PODUNK MICHIGAN. EVERYONE CALLS IT BLACKTOP. LOL. ASPHALT.
at least there not saying tarmak
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:22 AM   #1657
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Great News! Thanks!
waiting on these alu steering blocks as well

BTW im almost done with my build, just wting on the rest of the parts to finish


EDIT: jin answered one of the question, but still wondering about the first..afraid the post got lost in the back page
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half through the build, still waiting on a few parts to complete. i notice the front end uses a spool rather than a diff, what benefits would i expect by putting a gear diff and a ball diff in the front?
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:08 AM   #1658
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DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH SPURS STRIPPING WITH THE TWO SCRES REMOVED ON THE REAR UPPER DECK? I REALLY LIKE THE MOD. LOOKS LIKE THATS HOW IT CAME OUT OF THE BOX.

ARE YOU ON CARPET OR BLACKTOP WITH THE CAR?
i had two spurgears stripping when i removed those
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Old 11-07-2011, 11:20 AM   #1659
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Artwork addressed using fr/rear gear diffs in this post:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/9860524-post1567.html


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waiting on these alu steering blocks as well

BTW im almost done with my build, just wting on the rest of the parts to finish


EDIT: jin answered one of the question, but still wondering about the first..afraid the post got lost in the back page
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Artwork addressed using front/rear gear diffs in this post:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/9860524-post1567.html


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waiting on these alu steering blocks as well

BTW im almost done with my build, just wting on the rest of the parts to finish


EDIT: jin answered one of the question, but still wondering about the first..afraid the post got lost in the back page
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Old 11-07-2011, 11:49 AM   #1661
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thats great jin, thanks gain
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I HAVE RUN BOTH THE STOCK 2.5MM AND THE 2MM CHASSIS ON A SMALL TRACK (ITS ABOUT 40X70FT TRACK), LOW TRACTION BRAND NEW CARPET, INDOOR OF COURSE. TRACK TEMP IS RIGHT AROUND 50-60 DEGREES.

I REALLY LIKE THE FULL 2MM SETUP. UPPER DECK AS WELL. THE CAR FEELS PLANTED LIKE NEVER BEFORE. NO TRACTION ROLL. WITH THE 2.5MM CHASSIS AND DECK, MY LAP TIMES INCREASED BY .3S. SO I WENT BACK TO THE 2MM.

I'VE DONE MOST OF THE MODS ON HERE EXCEPT THE CHASSIS CUTTING.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO TRY MY SETUP WITH THE 2MM CHASSIS AND 2MM DECK:
FR SHOCK POSITION 4
RR SHOCK POSITION 1. SOMETIMES 2 DEPENDING ON TRACTION
REAR ARMS CENTERED. STOCK ARMS
FRONT ARMS SAME
LOW FRICTION BELTS.
1MM SHIM UNDER REAR INSIDE BALL STUD. (CAMBER LINK)
3MM SHIM ON REAR HUBS
2MM SHIM FRONT INSIDE BALL STUD (CAMBER LINK)
NOTHING ON C-HUBS
YELLOW SPRINGS FRONT
WHITE SPRINGS REAR
50WT OIL FRONT SHOCK OUTER LOWER HOLE
35WT OIL REAR SHOCK OUTER LOWER HOLE
USE THE THINNEST OIL YOU CAN BUY OR HAVE IN THE REAR DIFF. WD40 OR BEARING OIL WORKS WELL. IM USING LUCAS GUN OIL. HILLBILLY BUT IT WORKS. TRUST ME....
3.5 DEGREE REAR BLOCK WITH THE 0 DEGREE STOCK BLOCK 1MM SHIMS UNDER
STOCK TOE BLOCKS UP FRONT 1MM SHIMS UNDER
1MM SHIM UNDER BOTTOM SHOCK MOUNTS ON ALL A-ARMS. THIS ALIGNS THE SHOCKS BETTER WITH THE SHOCK TOWER.
STOCK SWAYBARS F AND R
NO WEIGHTS (CAR IS WITHIN 1-2 GRAMS ALL THE WAY AROUND)
2 DEGREES CAMBER REAR
1.5ISH DEGREES CAMBER FRONT
0 DEGREES FRONT TOE
SPOOL IN FRONT. I HAVE USED MY EXTRA SERPENT GEAR DIFF UP FRONT WITH 300K OIL, MUCH MORE STEERING. UP TO YOU ON THAT.....
TI-NI SHOCK SHAFTS
I DID THE STEERING MOD TO REMOVE THE SLACK AND 1MM SHIMS UNDER OUTER STEERING TIRODS.
IM USING THE TWO SCREWS CLOSEST TO THE SPUR ON THE UPPER DECK, AND THE TWO SCREWS TOWARD THE REAR OF THE CAR. THE 2 INBETWEEN THOSE ARE REMOVED.
LTC-R REGULAR WEIGHT BODY


NOTE, IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT USING CA GLUE TO SEAL THE EDGES OF YOUR CHASSIS CHANGES THE FLEX. MY 2.5MM WAS GLUED, THE 2MM IM USING WAS NOT.


IF YOU TRY THESE, LET ME KNOW HOW IT WORKS FOR YOU.


I CAN EMAIL PICS IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE ANYTHING.

SINCE THE INDOOR SEASON OPENED 5-6 WEEKS AGO, THIS SETUP HAS BEEN UNCHANGED. I HAVE NOT MISSED A TQ NOR AN AMAIN WIN. THE CAR IS VERY CONSISTENT AND GOES ANYWHERE YOU PUT IT. EVERY MAIN I HAVE RUN WITH IT THIS SEASON, I HAVE WON BY AT LEAST ONE FULL LAP OF THE #2 GUY. WE RUN BLINKY 17.5.
Thanks, what would you change for low traction asphalt ? are you using no shims under the rear baulkheads ?

How do I tone down the steering, it feels a bit edgy/twitchy. I'm already running 40% expo.
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i have more question for you guys..i apologize for any inconvenience

1. what other brand spur gears that will fit on a s411? i picked up a couple of 3racing spurs but the holes does not line up.

man this sucks, i was almost done with the build and the batts and chargers was the only thing holding me up..now that the spares came in, my spurs dont fit. ugh

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i have more question for you guys..i apologize for any inconvenience

1. what other brand spur gears that will fit on a s411? i picked up a couple of 3racing spurs but the holes does not line up.

man this sucks, i was almost done with the build and the batts and chargers was the only thing holding me up..now that the spares came in, my spurs dont fit. ugh

Serpent do their own now, but xray ones fit fine as do RW spurs (I run these)
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:47 PM   #1665
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Guys what chassis do you like running on carpet 2mm or the 2.25 im going to be getting this kit within the next few days jus wanted to see what most of you are running on carpet. Thanks!
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