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catalzzy 01-05-2011 02:12 AM

3.5T LRP Vector X12 modified motor..
 
Hi,

i received my first modified brushless motor... with lrp sxx tc spec esc..

can you guys help me of how should i maintain the motor and what items do i need to make the motor fresh?

grease? and whatelse? oil on the o rings?

also one more thing..

what should the final ratio is perfect? cos atm i am using fdr of 6.4..

the internal ratio is 2.5.. so would u guys help me which spur and pinion should be perfect for 3.5T modified motor?

thank you

TeamWTF 01-05-2011 03:16 AM

fdr is way too low...

I use around 8.2 with a 5.5t so i would imagine you would want around 9.0fdr...

A light bearing oil on the bearings is all it needs with the occasional strip down to remove any built up dirt/rocks. Check the bearings also (when disassembled) and replace if they are noisy or notchy...

3.5 is pretty powerful. If your not sure what your doing you could end up with a dead motor and/or speedy pretty fast...

catalzzy 01-05-2011 03:30 AM

hmmmm,

the speedo and the motor is hot with 6.4..

arrghh man.. the higher ratio means more top speed?


just only light oil? like any oil types?

spongerX 01-05-2011 03:47 AM

You're going to burn things up with a FDR of 6.4 and a 3.5 motor.

Here's a suggested gearing guide from Novak for their Ballistic motors which may be a good starting point for you:
http://www.teamnovak.com/tech_info/b...r_gearing.html

I'm not familiar with LRP ESCs so don't know if the one you have has any profiles with timing but make sure you're in a profile with no extra timing from the ESC.

Invest in a temp gun, Pro Exotics PE2 or the one from HPI aren't bad and temp the motor frequently (every minute or so) when you're playing with gearing on that powerful a motor to make sure you're within the temp range recommended by the motor manufacturer.

3.5 is really a lot of power. When I stepped up to one of those from a 6.5 the difference was huge. I prefer a 6.5. The 3.5 is really a handful to manage and everything is under a lot more strain with that much power.

RedBullFiXX 01-05-2011 06:55 AM

The booklet that is INCLUDED with the X12 motors states that 4.0 or higher are recommended for High Speed tracks and TC's with 7.2 - 7.4v
The 3.5 with a ratio of 11.0+ is for a 6v application.

Of course these are just "guidelines"

catalzzy 01-05-2011 07:09 AM

yeah, i use 7.4v 2s lipo.. dont see any 6v lipo... the min is 3.7?????

catalzzy 01-05-2011 09:10 PM

i have geared it at 9.72 for fdr.. is it under geared or overgeared?

the manual for the 3.5t and esc.. it says around 8 something.. i m confused..

i m using the kyosho tf-5 with these brushless stuff..

the esc and motor is still hot..

thanks..

catalzzy 01-06-2011 02:20 AM

come on guys... please help.....

TeamWTF 01-06-2011 02:34 AM

Are you racing or bashing up and down the street?

catalzzy 01-06-2011 04:05 AM

i am using it for racing and drag..

jeez.... 6v for 3.5t.. how would i find 6v lipo?

is the 8.2 fdr is fine?

M7H 01-06-2011 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX (Post 8438990)
The booklet that is INCLUDED with the X12 motors states that 4.0 or higher are recommended for High Speed tracks and TC's with 7.2 - 7.4v
The 3.5 with a ratio of 11.0+ is for a 6v application.

Of course these are just "guidelines"


Originally Posted by catalzzy (Post 8443781)
i am using it for racing and drag..

jeez.... 6v for 3.5t.. how would i find 6v lipo?

is the 8.2 fdr is fine?

A 6V lipo doesn't exist, but as RedBullFiXX mentioned, it is only a guideline. And don't forget the included manual is already existing for some time (when cells where still used).
Does the ESC have "Feel" and "Boost" settings?
Go a few steps back on them.

M7H 01-06-2011 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by catalzzy (Post 8442872)
the manual for the 3.5t and esc.. it says around 8 something.. i m confused..

Are we looking at the same manual?
http://www.lrp.cc/fileadmin/lrp_anle...e-090518fv.pdf

You should go for an FDR above 10.0 or 11.0 (as already mentioned)

catalzzy 01-06-2011 06:27 AM

hmmm, yeah according to drag race... low fdr... but.. i also want to use for touring.. when i use the 6.04 fdr for 2 runs.. it was ok..

since i used the 9.72fdr.. motor is hot and esc seem hot too..

i checked the manual and it should be around 8 fdr.. so it seems that i am undergeared or what?? so confusing.. the esc sxx tc spec is all default.. i checked the blinking lights and stuff......

spongerX 01-06-2011 09:11 AM

What temperature is "hot"?

catalzzy 01-06-2011 09:42 AM

i think around 60 to above.......


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