What the best esc for Zero Timing Class
#16
The idea of zero timing is good, other then the fact the some esc's are better then others. But its always been that way hasn't it.
Btw cherry, weren't you just complaining that 17.5 with boost is just as fast as mod and needs to be slowed down.
Fact. Sp 2.0 pro with zero timing software is faster then SP stock spec zero timing esc
Btw cherry, weren't you just complaining that 17.5 with boost is just as fast as mod and needs to be slowed down.
Fact. Sp 2.0 pro with zero timing software is faster then SP stock spec zero timing esc
#17
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You have to admit though, if manufacturers would limit the products they produce to a few categories... such as RTR use or for racing only... and didnt flood the market with sooo many options to confuse a newcomer... or to give a seasoned racer a 'class to be fast in'... then potentially our hobby would likely be in a better place, as far as RACING goes.
I imagine the industry wouldnt be as profitable though. I mean, a company would make more money off of 100,000 newcomers buying INTO the hobby, than 10,000 racers staying IN the hobby. Right?
#18
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We customized a program in participation with the USVTA to help level the playing field and attract new racers. It can be done when RDs realize that they want fun races and more participants who can afford to participate.
We make products for all levels of racing and have exhaustive info on our web-site so that customers can research products and make comparisons.
...You have to admit though, if manufacturers would limit the products they produce to a few categories... such as RTR use or for racing only... and didnt flood the market with sooo many options to confuse a newcomer... or to give a seasoned racer a 'class to be fast in'... then potentially our hobby would likely be in a better place, as far as RACING goes.
#20
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I run the Speed Passion stock Cirtix system with the stock Speed Passion V2 motor and love it. I am only running a few tenth's slower hot laps than with my open speedo car. Racing with other stock systems we all seem to be about the same on the straight but I love the punch Speed Passion has on infeild.
#21
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How can a non-timing esc have "punch"?
#22
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This industry needs an event in which newcomers---not the experienced racers who post here on RCTech---can get involved in R/C without spending a lot of money on complex, racing electronics.
Whether this event is the "non-timing" ROAR Sportsman division, or something else, is yet to be determined. I have always been a vocal supporter of an entry-level division that does not allow any advanced timing, or PC programmable, escs---even ones made by Novak.
We offer a comprehensive program that allows new racers to upgrade to more competitive products as their skill and experience improve. No newcomer should have to purchase a 200.00 esc to get started and be competitive.
Also, why would long-time racers even want to compete against these newbies in Sportsman?
Whether this event is the "non-timing" ROAR Sportsman division, or something else, is yet to be determined. I have always been a vocal supporter of an entry-level division that does not allow any advanced timing, or PC programmable, escs---even ones made by Novak.
We offer a comprehensive program that allows new racers to upgrade to more competitive products as their skill and experience improve. No newcomer should have to purchase a 200.00 esc to get started and be competitive.
Also, why would long-time racers even want to compete against these newbies in Sportsman?
Hohoho--- Novak has ALWAYS been on the side of GROWING our hobby---and will make/produce anything we need to support it!! Both speedo's have a place in our hobby---what we need is the ROAR organization---AND our local tracks SUPPORT entry level racing and MAINTAIN the rules to keep people from trying to change constantly in the name of speed. WCRC has created a GREAT entry level class in the 21.5 "Super GT" cars---now just be CONSISTANT with enforcing the rules---and let the newer guys RACE!!!
It's all for FUN and TOY cars!!!
T
#23
This industry needs an event in which newcomers---not the experienced racers who post here on RCTech---can get involved in R/C without spending a lot of money on complex, racing electronics.
Whether this event is the "non-timing" ROAR Sportsman division, or something else, is yet to be determined. I have always been a vocal supporter of an entry-level division that does not allow any advanced timing, or PC programmable, escs---even ones made by Novak.
We offer a comprehensive program that allows new racers to upgrade to more competitive products as their skill and experience improve. No newcomer should have to purchase a 200.00 esc to get started and be competitive.
Also, why would long-time racers even want to compete against these newbies in Sportsman?
Whether this event is the "non-timing" ROAR Sportsman division, or something else, is yet to be determined. I have always been a vocal supporter of an entry-level division that does not allow any advanced timing, or PC programmable, escs---even ones made by Novak.
We offer a comprehensive program that allows new racers to upgrade to more competitive products as their skill and experience improve. No newcomer should have to purchase a 200.00 esc to get started and be competitive.
Also, why would long-time racers even want to compete against these newbies in Sportsman?
#24
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#25
I've always like the idea of a claiming race. A race where you could buy anyone else's car for a set price. If you could lose your car for $150 dollars cash you wouldn't be using high tech stuff.
#26
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This is racing! Why would any bloody racer broadcast the answer before they woop up on the rest of the racers searching for the answer?
The no timing/no boost ESC specification was originally intended to slow down the 17.5 class for a Sportsman class in hopes of increasing TC participation of the new racers. Why are you guys speeding it up again and running a heat of 13.5?
Here are 2 suggestions on how to answer the question yourself:
- There are over 28 approved ESCs on the ROAR Approved Sportsman ESC's list. Buy 3 of each and do an empirical test and comparison. After you spent 6 months and over $10,000 testing, you are guaranteed to have your answer.
- Put your hands on the first ESC you can get. Then get a 10.5 Trinity Duo 1 and put the blue endbells from a Duo 1 13.5 on it. Go out and win a few races in a spec class (no timing/no boost). Contact the ESC manufacturer and get sponsored.
#27
Tech Master
Having top racers stepping-down to be the big fish in the small pond has turned me off 13.5 to the point where i'll probably put a silver can back in my car...
#28
I've been asking myself that for a long time. We have a small racing community in NZ, but still get the same issues. Right now for our regional champs, we have olne of our most senior/experienced touring racers in the 13.5 class, not mod.
Having top racers stepping-down to be the big fish in the small pond has turned me off 13.5 to the point where i'll probably put a silver can back in my car...
Having top racers stepping-down to be the big fish in the small pond has turned me off 13.5 to the point where i'll probably put a silver can back in my car...
I work with a lot of kids in different forms of racing and usually when they feel provoked like that I simply tell them that we will just have to go out and beat them next race....and usually do.
And I'm not picking you out JR007 as I'm sure there are lots of others out there that feel the same, just trying to figure out why.
#29
I have no idea whether the no-timing ESC profiles are as equal as they SHOULD be.
All I know is that the motors we drive them with are NOT equal. Some come with enormous advance out of the factory, which renders the other specified dimensions worthless.
For no-timing to really work, we need fixed timing motors to go with it.
All I know is that the motors we drive them with are NOT equal. Some come with enormous advance out of the factory, which renders the other specified dimensions worthless.
For no-timing to really work, we need fixed timing motors to go with it.
#30
I have no idea whether the no-timing ESC profiles are as equal as they SHOULD be.
All I know is that the motors we drive them with are NOT equal. Some come with enormous advance out of the factory, which renders the other specified dimensions worthless.
For no-timing to really work, we need fixed timing motors to go with it.
All I know is that the motors we drive them with are NOT equal. Some come with enormous advance out of the factory, which renders the other specified dimensions worthless.
For no-timing to really work, we need fixed timing motors to go with it.